bowhunter007
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Still...One of the most recognizeable & scary sounds, is the action of a pump shotgun, being slammed shut(my personal fav)
Riding while armed?
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Now thats a nice .40 always liked the XD's. I was looking at the new XDs.45 but nobody ever has any and at $550 is a bit much to take out on the bike. but it is a 20 oz .45
jhendr3702
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Still...One of the most recognizeable & scary sounds, is the action of a pump shotgun, being slammed shut(my personal fav)
that is why there is one of those right beside my bed... a cop told me a long time ago to do that.. that is one of the most recognized noises.. and who ever is in your house, just heard it and is more than likely leaving..
on the .40 i have a taurus millenium pro .40 shoots great, not a lot of recoil.. not alot of money either.. i really like that gun..
I never trespass and always carry. My list of guns is waaaay too long but just for an idea I hand load 45 colt, 45 ACP, 454 Casull, 460 magnum, 6.5X55 Swedish, .223, and 9mm.
My current carry gun is a KelTec PMR 30. It weighs the same as my old xd45 magazine with 14 rounds. Yes, the pistol with 30 rounds of .22 Mag weighs the same as just the magazine of the XD. It's reliable, accurate and holds plenty of ammo.
I carry to protect myself and others from evil. I also have put down a fair number of mortally wounded turtles and snakes on the road.
A fool attempted to car jack us (wife and daughter) once. Long story, dark night lonely road, boxed in, blah, blah, blah. 2 cars were trying to block us in on a dark secluded road. I was able to outrun them in the 'Stang and let them chase me until I came to a street light a few miles down the road. Told the wife "this ends now, dial 911, do not hit send until I tell you". Was not scared for a second, my offer to add an extra hole in his head when he rushed the car changed his attitude instantly. When I rolled the black tinted window down my Glock was about 2 feet from his face. I had my finger on the trigger and the little finger on the trigger was depressed. He started backing up and we hauled ass. I said "hit send now" and we reported the incident to HP and County Sheriff.
I refuse to be a victim. My daughter has had a .22 Bearcat since she was 11.
So yes, Hell yea, in SC it's legal and a no brainer for me!
HD
My current carry gun is a KelTec PMR 30. It weighs the same as my old xd45 magazine with 14 rounds. Yes, the pistol with 30 rounds of .22 Mag weighs the same as just the magazine of the XD. It's reliable, accurate and holds plenty of ammo.
I carry to protect myself and others from evil. I also have put down a fair number of mortally wounded turtles and snakes on the road.
A fool attempted to car jack us (wife and daughter) once. Long story, dark night lonely road, boxed in, blah, blah, blah. 2 cars were trying to block us in on a dark secluded road. I was able to outrun them in the 'Stang and let them chase me until I came to a street light a few miles down the road. Told the wife "this ends now, dial 911, do not hit send until I tell you". Was not scared for a second, my offer to add an extra hole in his head when he rushed the car changed his attitude instantly. When I rolled the black tinted window down my Glock was about 2 feet from his face. I had my finger on the trigger and the little finger on the trigger was depressed. He started backing up and we hauled ass. I said "hit send now" and we reported the incident to HP and County Sheriff.
I refuse to be a victim. My daughter has had a .22 Bearcat since she was 11.
So yes, Hell yea, in SC it's legal and a no brainer for me!
HD
Yes, I would have guessed that most GasGas riders had firearms. It's logical to buy a top notch dirt bike, and logical to be prepared for the aholes who can't fit in with the rest of us.
I carry a cheapie 9mm HiPoint in my tank bag, (when I use a tank bag, for longer trail rides), or for shorter rides a cheap but very good quality Hungarian made 9mm Walther copy. On longer 2 day rides I carry both. It may be overkill but redundency makes me feel good twice. The HiPoint is not real accurate past 50 feet, but it never ever fails to shoot, with any ammo, dirty, whatever. The Walther is a little more accurate and almost as reliable. I am planning to buy a KelTec PMR 30, .22 magnum that holds 30 rounds and is small and light. KelTec is currently working out the small bugs since it has only been in production for a couple years, although they will fix any problems that current guns have.
When I carry both weapons, I keep the lighter Walther in my fanny pack, but pulled around to the front, with my tool bag on back of my waist, and the HiPoint in the tank bag. If I run across Bigfoot on the trail I might just jump off the bike without stopping and swing my way into a tall tree like a monkey. Uh, can Bigfoot climb trees? If he can't climb, he can probably just push it over. Anyway, even if I have to leave my bike in a hurry I'm still armed, and Bigfoot might not die but he'll be leaking.
Seriously, I have been drawn down on by a drunk with an AR or M16, and another time 2 cowboy looking dudes with big western style revolvers. Both times the idiots were using marked motorcycle trails to put up targets. The cowboys had torn off Enduro arrows and stapled them to plywood right in the middle of a trail. I blasted around a corner and knocked over their targets, and they weren't happy cowboys. Luckily for me there were about 5 guys behind me. The shooters ended up being halfway polite after some talk.
The AR 15 guy had done the same thing sort of. He had taken a pallet from a ditch that the Enduro club used for a bridge and set cans on top, right in the middle of a marked Enduro trail. I had about 7 riders behind me that day. The only way I could get by him was to almost rub his truck with my bike. He had parked his truck directly in the middle of the trail. He had his young son with him, and he was a belligerent bastard. I shut off my bike and politely told him he was target practicing on a marked motorcycle trail. He not so politely told me he knew. I wasn't armed. That was about 10 yrs ago and I've been armed since. I don't want to get in any gunfight, especially with a guy armed with a high cap. weapon, but I noticed that he had just dropped a clip but had not picked up another one from his tailgate. The kid also had a pistol and a .22 rifle. This ahole was not only endangering his son but teaching him to be just like daddy, armed and stupid. I prayed right then that if God would spare me, I'd never ride unarmed again. I do, but only with big trail rides and a bunch of other riders, or events like races or dual sport rides. If I'm by myself or only with a couple of others I'm armed.
I've never had serious problems with deer hunters, but one time a big family was hunting right on a singletrack trail. There were about 20 of them squirrel hunting all along a marked trail, right next to a main dirt road. I passed the first kid of about 10 yrs old, then a few others a little older. Finally started passing adults from 20-50. They were all strung out about 100 yards apart all along a trail. Finally one guy reached out and grabbed my handlebars, I was only crawling along slowly, and I stopped. This idiot started cussing me out for riding a motorcycle on a Federally designated, well marked, singletrack motorcycle trail! I asked him if he knew his whole family was hunting on a marked motorcycle trail, and he said yes! Then he rudely asked me how long we were going to be riding there! I said: "Oh, we've been riding here for about 10 years, and will probably be riding here at least 20 more". I had my hand in my riding jacket pocket with a 9mm with hollowpoints pointed right at him but he didn't know that. He moved aside and I went on. I'm sure he was really pissed when the next 10 guys finally came along.
I walked up on a huge sow hog with a litter. I had gotten off the bike to walk to a waterfall, and she had had her litter underneath the overhang behind the falls. I had a pistol, but she was about a 400 pounder, so I didn't shoot or try to reason with her, I just moved on. Quickly. Ok, I ran to my bike, did a donut, and hauled out of there!
I've found weed growing in the woods. Another time, 2 moonshine stills about a quarter mile apart. A stolen safe that someone had tried to shoot their way into and failed, but had drilled a hole in. I heard a truck coming my way and I got the heck out fast. It was on a buddy's dads land, I called him and he called the cops. It had been stolen from a restaurant the night before, and the cops figured out that one of the theives lived very nearby, so the truck was probably them coming to see who was riding a dirt bike near their haul.
I've been chased by a guy on a 4 wheeler trying to point a shotgun at me while he rode. That old fat guy could ride that 4wd Quad almost as fast as I could run away with a KTM 520! This idiot had illegally marked some Forest Service land as his own, was squatting illegally and had a shack built, living off the land.
I was chased for about a half mile by a 10 foot tall Great Dane. Well, it was only about 4 ft tall at the shoulders, but it looked bigger. At times that dog would cut through the woods and get an angle on me and get so close to my leg I could feel his breath. I never knew if he was trying to bite me or play, but he probably weighed as much as my bike! I didn't wanna play!
I got bit by a big mutt dog, but he only got my boot. I got away, went back with a big rock laying in my lap, and when he ran up beside me again, I slammed the rock on top of his head. You should have heard the noise he made! Kind of a grunt, squeal, growl. But he ran off wobbling and whining. Then the dogs owner jumped in his truck and chased me all the way to my stepfathers shop, trying to run me over. (I was 10 yrs old on an 80). His truck was faster but it was a curvy dirt road. I won in the turns. My stepdad was a bit old school. The guy had jumped out of his truck with a little .410 looking shotgun, and was yelling that someone was gonna pay for his dog. My stepdad pulled a .30.30 out of his truck and said someone's dog was gonna get killed if he tried to bite his kid again. He went away with his tail between his legs. The guy and the dog.
Yes, living in rural Arkansas is a hoot! A thrill a minute! Those are just motorcycle riding and gun stories and are all truth. I have buddies who have even crazier ones. One guy I know used to check water meters. When Perry County finally got off of well water on to "City Water", of course everyone signed up for it but didn't know that someone would come every month to read that there water meter they put in their front yard. He actually got shot, twice in one year! Ol Roy weren't too bright. I think getting shot once would have either gotten me a really big raise or another job.
I have 2 other stories while hunting where actual shots were fired. By me and my hunting buddy and the other guy. We stumbled into a dudes big weed field, and I don't mean Johnson grass. He had about 50 plants. I was technically on Forest Service land, but I was close enough to his singlewide that he could hear our squirrel dogs and he came a shootin. He shoulda known we had guns too. It was one large caliber bolt action vs. a .22 and a .20 guage, but we had big rocks and trees for cover. He was standing on the back porch of a house trailer in his underwear. Hell, we knew the guy! We knew that the gun he usually deer hunted with was a 4 shot bolt action. When he shot 4 times with a pause after, we let loose and ran him back inside, and we ran at about a 24 mph speed average for 3 miles back to my buddies house. We knew the guy, he was an older dude who had a dirt bike and had ridden with us once. We didn't know he grew weed on the creek behind his trailer though.
Do I go armed while riding? Hell, around here I go armed to the bathroom!
I carry a cheapie 9mm HiPoint in my tank bag, (when I use a tank bag, for longer trail rides), or for shorter rides a cheap but very good quality Hungarian made 9mm Walther copy. On longer 2 day rides I carry both. It may be overkill but redundency makes me feel good twice. The HiPoint is not real accurate past 50 feet, but it never ever fails to shoot, with any ammo, dirty, whatever. The Walther is a little more accurate and almost as reliable. I am planning to buy a KelTec PMR 30, .22 magnum that holds 30 rounds and is small and light. KelTec is currently working out the small bugs since it has only been in production for a couple years, although they will fix any problems that current guns have.
When I carry both weapons, I keep the lighter Walther in my fanny pack, but pulled around to the front, with my tool bag on back of my waist, and the HiPoint in the tank bag. If I run across Bigfoot on the trail I might just jump off the bike without stopping and swing my way into a tall tree like a monkey. Uh, can Bigfoot climb trees? If he can't climb, he can probably just push it over. Anyway, even if I have to leave my bike in a hurry I'm still armed, and Bigfoot might not die but he'll be leaking.
Seriously, I have been drawn down on by a drunk with an AR or M16, and another time 2 cowboy looking dudes with big western style revolvers. Both times the idiots were using marked motorcycle trails to put up targets. The cowboys had torn off Enduro arrows and stapled them to plywood right in the middle of a trail. I blasted around a corner and knocked over their targets, and they weren't happy cowboys. Luckily for me there were about 5 guys behind me. The shooters ended up being halfway polite after some talk.
The AR 15 guy had done the same thing sort of. He had taken a pallet from a ditch that the Enduro club used for a bridge and set cans on top, right in the middle of a marked Enduro trail. I had about 7 riders behind me that day. The only way I could get by him was to almost rub his truck with my bike. He had parked his truck directly in the middle of the trail. He had his young son with him, and he was a belligerent bastard. I shut off my bike and politely told him he was target practicing on a marked motorcycle trail. He not so politely told me he knew. I wasn't armed. That was about 10 yrs ago and I've been armed since. I don't want to get in any gunfight, especially with a guy armed with a high cap. weapon, but I noticed that he had just dropped a clip but had not picked up another one from his tailgate. The kid also had a pistol and a .22 rifle. This ahole was not only endangering his son but teaching him to be just like daddy, armed and stupid. I prayed right then that if God would spare me, I'd never ride unarmed again. I do, but only with big trail rides and a bunch of other riders, or events like races or dual sport rides. If I'm by myself or only with a couple of others I'm armed.
I've never had serious problems with deer hunters, but one time a big family was hunting right on a singletrack trail. There were about 20 of them squirrel hunting all along a marked trail, right next to a main dirt road. I passed the first kid of about 10 yrs old, then a few others a little older. Finally started passing adults from 20-50. They were all strung out about 100 yards apart all along a trail. Finally one guy reached out and grabbed my handlebars, I was only crawling along slowly, and I stopped. This idiot started cussing me out for riding a motorcycle on a Federally designated, well marked, singletrack motorcycle trail! I asked him if he knew his whole family was hunting on a marked motorcycle trail, and he said yes! Then he rudely asked me how long we were going to be riding there! I said: "Oh, we've been riding here for about 10 years, and will probably be riding here at least 20 more". I had my hand in my riding jacket pocket with a 9mm with hollowpoints pointed right at him but he didn't know that. He moved aside and I went on. I'm sure he was really pissed when the next 10 guys finally came along.
I walked up on a huge sow hog with a litter. I had gotten off the bike to walk to a waterfall, and she had had her litter underneath the overhang behind the falls. I had a pistol, but she was about a 400 pounder, so I didn't shoot or try to reason with her, I just moved on. Quickly. Ok, I ran to my bike, did a donut, and hauled out of there!
I've found weed growing in the woods. Another time, 2 moonshine stills about a quarter mile apart. A stolen safe that someone had tried to shoot their way into and failed, but had drilled a hole in. I heard a truck coming my way and I got the heck out fast. It was on a buddy's dads land, I called him and he called the cops. It had been stolen from a restaurant the night before, and the cops figured out that one of the theives lived very nearby, so the truck was probably them coming to see who was riding a dirt bike near their haul.
I've been chased by a guy on a 4 wheeler trying to point a shotgun at me while he rode. That old fat guy could ride that 4wd Quad almost as fast as I could run away with a KTM 520! This idiot had illegally marked some Forest Service land as his own, was squatting illegally and had a shack built, living off the land.
I was chased for about a half mile by a 10 foot tall Great Dane. Well, it was only about 4 ft tall at the shoulders, but it looked bigger. At times that dog would cut through the woods and get an angle on me and get so close to my leg I could feel his breath. I never knew if he was trying to bite me or play, but he probably weighed as much as my bike! I didn't wanna play!
I got bit by a big mutt dog, but he only got my boot. I got away, went back with a big rock laying in my lap, and when he ran up beside me again, I slammed the rock on top of his head. You should have heard the noise he made! Kind of a grunt, squeal, growl. But he ran off wobbling and whining. Then the dogs owner jumped in his truck and chased me all the way to my stepfathers shop, trying to run me over. (I was 10 yrs old on an 80). His truck was faster but it was a curvy dirt road. I won in the turns. My stepdad was a bit old school. The guy had jumped out of his truck with a little .410 looking shotgun, and was yelling that someone was gonna pay for his dog. My stepdad pulled a .30.30 out of his truck and said someone's dog was gonna get killed if he tried to bite his kid again. He went away with his tail between his legs. The guy and the dog.
Yes, living in rural Arkansas is a hoot! A thrill a minute! Those are just motorcycle riding and gun stories and are all truth. I have buddies who have even crazier ones. One guy I know used to check water meters. When Perry County finally got off of well water on to "City Water", of course everyone signed up for it but didn't know that someone would come every month to read that there water meter they put in their front yard. He actually got shot, twice in one year! Ol Roy weren't too bright. I think getting shot once would have either gotten me a really big raise or another job.
I have 2 other stories while hunting where actual shots were fired. By me and my hunting buddy and the other guy. We stumbled into a dudes big weed field, and I don't mean Johnson grass. He had about 50 plants. I was technically on Forest Service land, but I was close enough to his singlewide that he could hear our squirrel dogs and he came a shootin. He shoulda known we had guns too. It was one large caliber bolt action vs. a .22 and a .20 guage, but we had big rocks and trees for cover. He was standing on the back porch of a house trailer in his underwear. Hell, we knew the guy! We knew that the gun he usually deer hunted with was a 4 shot bolt action. When he shot 4 times with a pause after, we let loose and ran him back inside, and we ran at about a 24 mph speed average for 3 miles back to my buddies house. We knew the guy, he was an older dude who had a dirt bike and had ridden with us once. We didn't know he grew weed on the creek behind his trailer though.
Do I go armed while riding? Hell, around here I go armed to the bathroom!
JGas, "Do I go armed while riding? Hell, around here I go armed to the bathroom! " LOL, Us too,
All problems with PMR are fixed. I have a very early one sent back to be "made to current specs". It's been 100 % reliable, weighs nothing and I can hit "things"with it. You'll love yours if you get one. Now, I'm gonna poke at you
I paid 339 bucks, tax included for mine. Try and get that deal!
I feel well armed with it but I do prefer calibers that have .45 in their name.
If I was in bear country I'd carry Helen's 460 XV S&W.
I was attacked by a bear, so to speak and my buddy was bitten and had to take rabies shots. We were in Boy Scouts on the Appalachian trail...this was a long time ago. Gun would not have helped because we were attacked while asleep in the tent.
PMR is very impressive and easy to carry.
HD
All problems with PMR are fixed. I have a very early one sent back to be "made to current specs". It's been 100 % reliable, weighs nothing and I can hit "things"with it. You'll love yours if you get one. Now, I'm gonna poke at you
I paid 339 bucks, tax included for mine. Try and get that deal!I feel well armed with it but I do prefer calibers that have .45 in their name.
If I was in bear country I'd carry Helen's 460 XV S&W.
I was attacked by a bear, so to speak and my buddy was bitten and had to take rabies shots. We were in Boy Scouts on the Appalachian trail...this was a long time ago. Gun would not have helped because we were attacked while asleep in the tent.
PMR is very impressive and easy to carry.
HD
Do any of U know a safe way to carry on your person? I stow mine in my backpack. I still fall occasionally and even a face plant now and then. I don't want to break any bones or wreck the gun. I've often thought it would be a lot better if I could get to it quicker. I definetly want it on me in case I get knocked off the bike.
One idea is to attach a locking kydex type holster to the inside front of my chest protector. I worry about posibly injuring myself tho if I land hard.
Another thought is to attach the holster to either the backpack or chest protector at the back and be able to reach around with my right hand easily to grab it. Both of these method would be hidden from sight.
One idea is to attach a locking kydex type holster to the inside front of my chest protector. I worry about posibly injuring myself tho if I land hard.
Another thought is to attach the holster to either the backpack or chest protector at the back and be able to reach around with my right hand easily to grab it. Both of these method would be hidden from sight.
GMP
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I'd do that, around back. Either rig up a holster in or behind your camelback/pack, so its between that and your CP. Padded in a fall then. I wouldn't want it on my chest, too easy to break ribs/sternum if you take a hit on the bars. Hell, I broke half the ribs on my right side skiing when I fell on my camera.
Jeez Jeff, what a post. Your like the Python that comes out once a month and eats a whole pig for lunch.
Jeez Jeff, what a post. Your like the Python that comes out once a month and eats a whole pig for lunch.
modette
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Is this location in CO near Saguache? Because when we had an event there in 2011 we came across a guy that has poached a mine (so a few local riders told us) and he put up a gate blocking the trail with signs. My group never saw him, another group he thew rocks at them and screamed but they ended up talking and taking his picture and him showing them gold and stuff...LOL
We were told that the USFS knows about him, but as its pretty remote they don't want to get involved. *shrug* So you ignore his signs, his gate and you go through as he knows he has no legal rights. Of course one local did mention he had thought about taking the guy out and make him disappear as no one would ever know what happened as fast as he home steadied he be gone.
modette
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I'll never understand why people get upset.
Another group I was leading about 8 of us, we are on a hardcore single track LOST...had USFS maps but if you ever seen them they are not very good.
After a hard ride we come to a gate (side of gate says no trespassing)...it seems like the route we need to take as the map shows it following the creek and well the driveway follows the creek. It's not locked so we go in. (In Colorado private property owners will try and fool you by how they place signage). As always we close the gate how we found it. We can see cabins, we decide first to try to the right and that took us to a LOCKED gate. Okay so now lets try straight, and go to a cabin with a guy outside. He questions us but is not rude, we ask if he could let us out through the locked gate or tell us where the trail is. He plays dumb, says we need to go to the other cabin and talk to that man.
So we head to the other cabin and of course they heard us, we shut of all the engines. We say HI, his response "WTF are you doing". Hey buddy we are lost, as that is being said I notice the USFS trail marker on the other side of his fence. A retired cop in our group says "calm down we are low on gas and just trying to get out". This ratty looking man says "go the way you came from". I pipe up and say "That is the trail right there", the guy yell's TOO F'ing bad go back the way you came". Oh he did ask if we could read and if we saw the signs saying No Trespassing (people forget that does not mean you can not approach and ask for help, being lost, low fuel need direction).
So we head back to the gate. Now we see a lady on a horse within the gated area. We shut our engines due to the horses and we tell her we are lost. We tell her about the guy, she shacks her head and says "I don't know why he didn't just let you out as that is the trail you need". She says we missed the turn off so go back the way we came and it will be on our right. We thank her, she was cool with us. We head back and sure enough we missed the split due to the marker laying down in the bushes (you know if you don't want people asking for directions in a remote area make sure the trail markers are left up....lol).
So yes, there are times you end up on peoples property...no reason for them to have a cow and get all bent out of shape and if its a common occurrence maybe fix the issue I know I would.
As for carrying a gun, I don't see the need. But you do run into a lot of oddball people in the woods. My brother in-law who I ride with most is getting his CWP and will always carry. His brother is a big gun nut and he always carry's. There are a lot of guys that carry, most concealed at our events but some like to open carry...I'm just not sure I would want my gun all dusty. Here in Colorado its a right. The odds of needing it are next to none, chances are the other guy you come across has a gun...if he pulls your too late to the party at that point so what are you going to do? Best to smooth talk and GTF out of there and report it to the cops.
Oh and even if your on someones land, pointing a gun at you is a criminal charge. You only point a gun when you plan to shoot. If you have no gun it be hard for that person to tell the cops you posed a threat. It's a fine line...be careful.
Another group I was leading about 8 of us, we are on a hardcore single track LOST...had USFS maps but if you ever seen them they are not very good.
After a hard ride we come to a gate (side of gate says no trespassing)...it seems like the route we need to take as the map shows it following the creek and well the driveway follows the creek. It's not locked so we go in. (In Colorado private property owners will try and fool you by how they place signage). As always we close the gate how we found it. We can see cabins, we decide first to try to the right and that took us to a LOCKED gate. Okay so now lets try straight, and go to a cabin with a guy outside. He questions us but is not rude, we ask if he could let us out through the locked gate or tell us where the trail is. He plays dumb, says we need to go to the other cabin and talk to that man.
So we head to the other cabin and of course they heard us, we shut of all the engines. We say HI, his response "WTF are you doing". Hey buddy we are lost, as that is being said I notice the USFS trail marker on the other side of his fence. A retired cop in our group says "calm down we are low on gas and just trying to get out". This ratty looking man says "go the way you came from". I pipe up and say "That is the trail right there", the guy yell's TOO F'ing bad go back the way you came". Oh he did ask if we could read and if we saw the signs saying No Trespassing (people forget that does not mean you can not approach and ask for help, being lost, low fuel need direction).
So we head back to the gate. Now we see a lady on a horse within the gated area. We shut our engines due to the horses and we tell her we are lost. We tell her about the guy, she shacks her head and says "I don't know why he didn't just let you out as that is the trail you need". She says we missed the turn off so go back the way we came and it will be on our right. We thank her, she was cool with us. We head back and sure enough we missed the split due to the marker laying down in the bushes (you know if you don't want people asking for directions in a remote area make sure the trail markers are left up....lol).
So yes, there are times you end up on peoples property...no reason for them to have a cow and get all bent out of shape and if its a common occurrence maybe fix the issue I know I would.
As for carrying a gun, I don't see the need. But you do run into a lot of oddball people in the woods. My brother in-law who I ride with most is getting his CWP and will always carry. His brother is a big gun nut and he always carry's. There are a lot of guys that carry, most concealed at our events but some like to open carry...I'm just not sure I would want my gun all dusty. Here in Colorado its a right. The odds of needing it are next to none, chances are the other guy you come across has a gun...if he pulls your too late to the party at that point so what are you going to do? Best to smooth talk and GTF out of there and report it to the cops.
Oh and even if your on someones land, pointing a gun at you is a criminal charge. You only point a gun when you plan to shoot. If you have no gun it be hard for that person to tell the cops you posed a threat. It's a fine line...be careful.
gasgas guy
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Really enjoyed this thread.I actually really like guns,but when you see the facts.No way ,will i bother with them.I,ve been in lots of crazy situations,one involved camping in south central L.A years ago,overnight.Stayed with a couple in mount isa Austraila who met when he was stalking her on a contract hit,by her ex.Fire arms would not have helped in those situations,so why when riding my dirt bike.Come ride Canada while we still can,leave the guns at home,you only have to be faster than the slowest guy,if you are afraid of the wild life.
bowhunter007
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I really think, for the most part, a lot people like to believe that "they are prepared for the unthinkable" Most are not. Most like the security "feeling" of packing some heat. For a lot of folks, myself included, gun ownership is part of a lifetime of everyday living. I grew up with firearms shoved in every nook & cranny of our house. My dad was gunsmith, and we had a full scale machine shop, at home. My kids(4 girls) learned early to just not discuss guns in mixed company, or they got "blacklisted" by their friends parents. Either way, regardless of political beliefs...Men invented guns, and regardless of whatever laws are on the books, men will possess & use them.
GMP
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Check this out. Sweet.. What a nice gun for home defense. That dual tube magazine is brilliant.
http://www.keltecweapons.com/our-guns/shotguns/ksg/
http://www.keltecweapons.com/our-guns/shotguns/ksg/
bowhunter007
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Rick
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This is pretty crazy: http://www.staged.com/video?v=q0eb
bowhunter007
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That's AWESOME!!!
bowhunter007
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This was an option, my Chevy Suburban DID NOT come with...
http://youtu.be/LcZ1m4MgaME
http://youtu.be/LcZ1m4MgaME
