Static Impressions - 300 Race

twowheels

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Fresh out of the crate and ready to ride - but first a few impressions on the new bike. In no particular order ...

* the air filter is the same as last year, but once you get your lunchbox out of the way access seems to be improved over last year. There's lots of sharp plastic under the seat though, so beware.
* the new brake pedal rocks!
* the new Ohlins shock has low-speed compression but not high-speed compression adjustment
* the hard-to-turn knob to adjust rebound has been replaced by a tiny hard-to-adjust allen screw to adjust rebound ... we'll be making a tool for this
* you'll likely have to hit the shrouds really hard to get them to pop out of the grommets - cool. They seem pretty flexible, although this may not be evident on the trail
* the new seat is really light, and it looks like the preferred path for air into the airbox is underneath the back half of the seat. I'm not sold on bolting up into the seat from underneath the fender - sure KTM does it, but the bolt will get packed with mud and you tend to push the seat up when you're trying to bolt it together. That and if gravity is still acting in the same direction as years past a loose seat bolt will be a lost seat bolt and maybe a lost seat.
* steering lock seems to have been diminished with the frame change
* the seat top is tapered at the sides, but seat height is noticeably taller. At 5'11" I can't touch the pads of my feet to the ground, whereas I could almost flat-foot entirely on the 2011 250 Race. Big guys will love it!
* the fastener usage is SO MUCH BETTER
* the new plastic (headlight shell, front fender, rear fender and side panels, shrouds) are fantastic, and the hand-holds under the rear fender rock. The side plates are big enough for real numbers.
* clutch pull with the new Magura master cylinder seems slightly firmer, but more direct
* the coil has moved, as has the CDI which is now located just in front of the fuel tank on the front down-tube
* the boss for the head stay is still on the cylinder head, but it doesn't go anywhere
* my prototype rad braces from 2010/11 bolted right up
* the petcock directs fuel to the right of the bike before looping under the intake and to the carb. Jetting will be slightly more difficult because of this and other clearance issues.

Ride report to follow as soon as I can find a trail without crusty snow and ice ...

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She's darn good looking ! :)

Shock not having the ability to tune high speed compression is incomprehensible, after all that new shock is an upgrade from the older 2011 model... don't get it...
 
Thanks for the in depth report on the good and the bad.

It figures that just when I find a bike (2011 250 Race) that fits me they go and make it taller. It seriously makes me tempted to pick up another 2011 Race just to have when this one wears out. My wife doesn't really need a new car does she?

No snow here either. If I get over this cold enough I'll be riding this weekend.
 
Why would they take the high speed adjustment out of the shock? So the only way to adjust this is with valving?

It didn't seem to slow Clay down at the GA enduro! :)
 
Thanks Steve for your report. I fugured you would have a good one and you sure did ;). Nothing like a few glam shots of a bike to send me into the spend mode. Do they look as good in person as the pics show? At 5' 7" I too wish they were the same seat height but I know most riders wanted/needed a taller bike and having two Huskys I'm use to being on my tip toes LOL. I guess a good suspension shop could take an 1" or so out if I really needed it. Thanks again.
 
I know shorter guys don't like the taller bike but I am glad to see it. That is one of the things I do not really like about my 11 Gasser. When crossing logs and such I notice the lack of ground clearance compared to my KTM.
 
One of the reasons I switched to Gas Gas a couple of months ago was because of the lower seat height. I haven't noticed the difference in ground clearance on my 24" practice log, and I just sold my KTM so I had a chance to ride them back to back.

Oh well, every other manufacturer seems to think taller is better also. BTW, I am used to taller bikes, but I definitely notice the lower seat height in certain situations (5'-8").
 
Thanks Steve for your report. I fugured you would have a good one and you sure did ;). Nothing like a few glam shots of a bike to send me into the spend mode. Do they look as good in person as the pics show? At 5' 7" I too wish they were the same seat height but I know most riders wanted/needed a taller bike and having two Huskys I'm use to being on my tip toes LOL. I guess a good suspension shop could take an 1" or so out if I really needed it. Thanks again.

John: I can make your 250 whatever height you need it :cool: And yes they are beautiful.
 
YUM! :) I do think I'm gonna end up with the 250 and maybe even the e-start. My friend that got my 2010 300 took it for his first real trail ride today and he couldn't be happier.
 
Steve, you can have that shipped to AZ. I can keep it in the garage for you so you will always have a bike to ride when you come out west! Just a thought? :rolleyes:
 
New ones look really good. I thought my 2011 was the best looking bike made, but the new ones give it a run. I'm glad myself to see the extra height.
 
Say it isn't so about the height

You guys have me worried. I put off buying a 2011 300 Six Day and have been waiting for '12s. I'm 5' 9" in my boots and had a tough time touching the ground in street shoes on the Six Day while looking in the showroom.

A buddy has a 2007 or 2008 and it was perfect. I sold my KTM cause it was too tall.
 
The 2012 is definitely taller. It seems the peg to seat relationship is stretched a bit but not much and the ground clearance is higher. Sometimes I hear guys praise the low seat height on the older models and then complain abouth the footpegs hitting rocks and other trail debris. We really can't expect to have both. If you want better ground clearance you're gonna have a taller seat. Even with the taller height the bike turns like the older models. I think the taller seat was worth it.
 
They are all tall in the showroom, with the preload who knows where and you in street clothes. My only concern is in the trials type rocks where I have to dab. Most racing conditions are less technical than my trails and no problem. I suspect there will be a soft foam seat out soon that will help, and depending on the new linkage, you may be able to run less spring preload and still have the bike turn good.
 
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