Tubliss with trials tire

mx31 front and rear at 6psi + tubliss works very well in the mud. i, on the otherhand, suck in the mud. had a great start (2nd into woods outta 16 on line) - i probably coulda been first into the woods, if i actually walked the first section of the course and knew what the line was.... i braked hard when i hit the woods due to not knowing what was ahead on the first big downhill.... my mistake..

anyways, the tires hooked up phenomenally, but i need lotsa practice with mud technique. i never got comfortable enough to even stand..
 
Has anyone run the MX31 on gravel roads?
I have a xc coming up, and its just started getting wet here, so the parts of the track that arnt gravel will be slippery, but theres always gravel roads at these events.
So will the MX31 last on gravel in semi anger, or will it be destroyed like S12s
I like how the MX31 works in slick conditions, but dont wont to kill my winter tyre at the start of winter.
 
i'm gonna be running it this weekend on a very rocky course. not gravel though.. i am assuming it will be destroyed after this weekend....
 
MX 31 is described as a soft terrain tire so I also wonder how it will hold up in rocky abusive conditions. I'm sure the performance will be good because it's probably soft and sticky but the durability is the big question. I need more than 1 ride from a tire before it's flipped. (running TuBliss setup)
 
a soft terrain tyre should actually be a hard compound rubber with wide gaps between th eknobs, so it should not be soft and sticky. if you want long lasting quality try the Motoz tyres, or Mitas or maxxis
 
I need more than 1 ride from a tire before it's flipped. (running TuBliss setup)

i have 4 (2 hour) races on the mx31 rear. 1 race was mud, the rest were loamy with some rocks.. flipped each race. this upcoming rocky one will definitely be it's last...i'm assuming it will chunk quite a bit.
 
I have destroyed all the soft terrain tires with the S12 style tread I have used in the rocks in short order. With the big gaps in the tread there is a lot of leverage to tear/chunk knobs. The MT16, VE33 seem to fare much better. I'm picking up a Tubliss soon and will try it with a new Maxxis SI rear, since the front works so well for me.
 
well the mx31 rear held up in the rocks. it definitely has trials like grip when run at 6psi... it surprisingly did not chunk, but it definitely shows lotsa wear. the front sucked on the hard pack/rocks - but i don't think any tire would have worked well - i was bouncing all over the place. i'm sold on the mx31's
 
Tubliss is the best thing to come along for the offroad guys in the last 10 years.
I haven't tried the MX31's yet but the 51 is the wost tire I have ever put on a 250 2 stroke. I ran a enduro in Maine with one and had no practice time with the tires. I don't know if I missed big time with the air pressure or what but it was the worst tire I have ever been on in my life. In the loam it would hold ok but when it let go it would let go a 100% and just destroy any confidence you had. Bring back the good old MT16 at 8 psi.
 
the mx51 rear is godawful. i destroyed it very rapidly, and it just didn't hookup. the mx31 is absolutely nothing like the mx51.
 
I ran the MX 31's front and rear at the Idaho City National this weekend. It was horrific conditions and the tires were stellar.
 
I have been running trials tires for years and love them.
I had planned on running a trials tire with a Tubliss but by the time I got around to mounting the Tubliss winter and the wet season was almost upon me so I mounted a cheap knobby with it instead. I like this combo for the conditions which I ride the most: steep, somewhat rocky, good dirt with some clay and lots and lots of leaves. Trials tires (or any knobby with close knobs) are at a disadvantage on wet clay or deep leaves. When the clay dries up in the summer and the leaves are gone from the hill climbs I may switch back to the trials tire but maybe not. The knobby doesn't do nearly as well on worn in trails but is a lot more predictable in faster turns. The extra grip and flexibility of the trials tire can be mimicked somewhat with a knobby by running very low pressure and the Tubliss allows you to do that safely. I've run 2-6 pounds of air in my knobby ever since I mounted it with my Tubliss six months ago and I average riding 4-5 hours a week. Not one pinch flat in that time and pinch flats were a major problem for me before the Tubliss. I ran 8-11 pounds of pressure in heavy duty tubes before.
 
Just thought I would chime in here. I have been running the Pirelli MT-43 for 3 years now. I have tried the X-11 and D803 as well.

For me, the big advantage of the stiffer sidewall MT-43 is that you can still ride it in the corners similar to a knobbie. It does not role in the corners like the softer X-11 and D803. The grip is not quite as good as the 2 others, but it is a minimal difference.

I run heavy duty tubes and until last weekend have never flatted, but I simply got too cocky. I ran very low psi in fast imbedded rock terrain.

Great tire and IMO it is one of the best "mods" I have ever done.
 
I've been running the Mitas for a few years now and like it a lot. I can't wait to try it with a Tubliss at less than 7 PSI like I run with a tube. The Tubliss was great with an MT-16 knobby and really made me a believer.
 
Mike,

I am curious to get your opinion on trials with tubliss vs knobby with tubliss. What are the pros and cons of each? Would there be much advantage to the trials with tubliss? I have a brand new set of s-12's, a dunlop 803, and a perelli mt-43, and am trying to decide which is the best nw setup.
 
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