What do you want on your next GasGas?

[swazi_matt]

Would be nice to have the oil fill at least larger diameter, but I have a small funnel with some hose attached to it that jams in tightly into the hole so nit a major issue there but reducing the number of tools required would be nice

 

[MrBlah]

My vote is seat hight, the ONLY reason I switched to gasgas is the seat hight, I'll be moving to beta when I buy a new bike in a few years

 

[Cruiser]

I'd have to really get some close up time on a newer bike to give a better answer.. but since 97 some of the same issues still around that seam simple..
Oil fill hole,
small-ish fuel tank,
Shifter issue,
Fastners, more uniform.
And havent looked at the 13 up close but the 12 is way too tall for me.. I got my 97 and my 03 due to the near perfect seat height.. the 12 was way tall.. and with a seat of stone no give means I cant come close to touching the ground. That is a deal breaker for me. I dont like to chop suspensions down.. make them ride odd..my 04 ktm is fine..a bit tall but usable..the beta I checked out seams like a nice height.. TM is nice too..
All this said.. GG has come a long way since my 97 250ec.. which I still have and love.. I have no idea which way to go when I do get a new ride.. putting it off another season as this one is already not going well.. Maybe I'll get some seat time on a 13 and the info on the 14's will get my motor running.

 

[GMP]

Above all I want a serious QC system in place at the factory as well, ISO 9000 guidelines. This will do more for both real and perceived quality than anything else. Perhaps the new owners will realize this. I suspect that with more capital and clout, some of these alternate parts supply issues will be eliminated and more consistant builds will result. If Beta can do it why not GG?

As far as specifics:

The air boot compound has got to go. I was messing with a new Husky this weekend as well as a KX I just bought for my son and it was a pleasure.

Oil fill is no big deal to me, with the right tool the hole in the case is a retainer, if its on top the clutch you cannot stick a big funnel in there.

The rear inner fender design should change so that a fall or flip will not trash the entire rear of the bike. From the airbox back should be more flexible and the tailight/plate support removable, not integrated. Broken fender should not mean broken subframe.

A real improvemnet in the steering radius, not a mm or so from a bolt change. We did a real hell ride this weekend, lots of off camber 180s around downed trees and it was a PIA at times. The spars need attention.

Ditch that pig of a silencer. It can't be that hard to have a nice light and compact silencer made.

For the estart guys, do it right, integrate the starter motor and get the battery out of the airbox.

 

[phoenix]

I love my Gas Gas, but if I had the opportunity to put some ideas out there...

Lighter!
In mold graphics like Husqvarna and Husaberg (they always look good and don't peel off!)
Easier air box access
Better thought out location for battery than 2013 (seems like an after thought)
I agree with the oil filler suggestions...too small in diameter! I personally don't like the metal on metal either...I'm afraid of stripping or cross threading.
Brembo brakes
Better kickstand setup. This thing is almost useless!
Keep seat height at or lower than 2013. Its nice to have a full size dirt bike that actually fits us shorter people.
Better documentation - I'd love to be able to buy a full service manual. Heck, my bike didn't even come with an owners manual!

 

[Leo]

1. Way less weight.
2. Better documentation.
3. Race models with more agressive engine.

(Miss my CR250 yet)

 

[MrBlah]

Ditch that pig of a silencer. It can't be that hard to have a nice light and compact silencer made.

that silencer is one of my favorite things, saves me having to buy one

 

[nambo-trev]

I hate that huge thing too. Gotta be a better alternative to that. One other thing I don't understand is why everyone wants brembo brakes?? My current set up is bad ass on the Nambo and don't know how it could be much better. I've ridden a lot of bikes with "brembos" and I don't think it means to much anymore unless we're talking about some high end car and street bike apps

 

[MrBlah]

the alternative is noise, smaller silencer = more noise, no getting around that

 

[desertgasser300]

the alternative is noise, smaller silencer = more noise, no getting around that

+1 more noise=more bitching from OHV haters.

 

[nambo-trev]

I don't think my tc2 is a bad alternative compared to the quietest 4 stroke out there and 90% of those guys have aftermarket which makes a tc2 whisper quiet. Side by side the stealth is slightly quieter at the expense of sub frame stress and its huge ugliness ! Nothing most people would notice in a comparison

 

[GMP]

A good silencer like the Messico or even the FMF TC2 is quiet enough. Measure the sound of that spooge trap after its soaked with oil, doesn't take long.

 

[nambo-trev]

My point exactly ask cberg on the forum what his q stealth sounded like after it was soaked?? I couldn't ride behind him it was that loud!! Re pack and all good but so would a good tc2

 

[Cberg]

It did sound pretty bad, ok terrible I think the new packing is holding up better than the original packing, but another issue I'm seeing with the extra size of the can is that my studded tires rub on it sometimes. Do they rub on your tc2 trev?

 

[Jakobi]

TC2 on my 2010 Race model. Haven't even had to change the packing in yet. Very little spooge and now been through 3 top ends. Everyone comments on how quiet it is. It sure makes the 250F running the Factoy 4.1 sound obnoxious.

 

[Leo]

I was scary how heavy is the FMF silencer. I think in cut that turbinething out

 

[Cberg]

TC2 on my 2010 Race model. Haven't even had to change the packing in yet. Very little spooge and now been through 3 top ends. Everyone comments on how quiet it is. It sure makes the 250F running the Factoy 4.1 sound obnoxious.

My Q started to sound real bad at about 20 hrs with the original packing, it does sound better with the new packing, better than it did at anytime with the original packing but I will probably end up putting on a TC2 at some point. The Q does sponge pretty bad

 

[desertgasser300]

Ran thru tech saturday 15 hrs on my repacked Q 86.4db

Quit falling over and it's not a problem with subframe breakage!! I am kidding, don't get ruffled.

 

[nambo-trev]

It did sound pretty bad, ok terrible I think the new packing is holding up better than the original packing, but another issue I'm seeing with the extra size of the can is that my studded tires rub on it sometimes. Do they rub on your tc2 trev?

No rubbing Curtis its still good packing wise as well. I'm quite happy with it!

 

[nambo-trev]

Ran thru tech saturday 15 hrs on my repacked Q 86.4db

Quit falling over and it's not a problem with subframe breakage!! I am kidding, don't get ruffled.

None taken bro It seems like every week I bust something trust me I'm trying to stay on this beast I just bought a new set of wheels and he had a shorty q made up so ill let you know how that turns out!