WTB Rekluse LHRB

HenrikSchmidt said:
I have to warn you against the new rekluse dual system.

http://rekluse.mybigcommerce.com/yam...model-fitment/

First off all, It's just a overpriced "hope" MTB brake master with a Rekluse logo.

Second, is the worst part, the dual action is optained by changing the lid of the original foot operated master to a new Rekluse lid with a thread to fit the brakeline from the LHRB.

That means when you use the LHRB you pressurize the original master from the top, and the brakefluid reservoir is NOT designed to take that kind of pressure!!:eek

My friend fit the system on his GG 300 and it was actually working good, untill he while braking, heard a loud "POP" and the LHRB lost all pressure and his right boot was soked in brakefluid, the level check window in the foot master was gone leaving him with a big hole in his rear master:mad:..
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I hope this is not the new norm for Rekluse. I have the older system that I purchased in 07' and back then they had a sleeve that slid down inside the rear MC that sealed with an O-ring. If the o-ring is not in place then you would have a problem. I will say that Rekluse does RAPE the consumer on the LHRB kits.
 
I have bought one of these
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/261256228...eName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649

My thoughts are I will try to run the clutch off of this just for occasional/emergency use and run a single line from the nissin M/C to the rear brake. Ditching the rear pedal!

Any thoughts and advice more than welcome as I haven't really got a clue as to what i'm doing!

Just as an after thought don't you require the clutch lever to set free play gain?

Oh and one more thing can anyone see a problem running a 5 foot brake line?
 
I have the older system that I purchased in 07' and back then they had a sleeve that slid down inside the rear MC that sealed with an O-ring. If the o-ring is not in place then you would have a problem.
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This is still the case. I suspect the other guy installed his wrong. But, you are right about the setup being overpriced. There was a guy on the ktm site that was selling homemade setups that were rekluse clones.
 
Pepperami said:
I have bought one of these
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/261256228...eName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649

My thoughts are I will try to run the clutch off of this just for occasional/emergency use and run a single line from the nissin M/C to the rear brake. Ditching the rear pedal!

Any thoughts and advice more than welcome as I haven't really got a clue as to what i'm doing!
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I am not going to ditch the rear pedal. In an emergency, hitting the rear brake will be an instinctive reaction I think. Also, if someone (like one of my kids) should borrow it, having every control where we are are used to have them is a nice safety feature. When / if I build a LHRB, it will be connected via the rear M/C.

My plan is to buy a secondhand Hayes and go from there (into the workshop where my lathe is, that is).

Pepperami said:
Just as an after thought don't you require the clutch lever to set free play gain?

Oh and one more thing can anyone see a problem running a 5 foot brake line?
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No, I can see no reason why that should be a problem. It may be difficult to bleed if it swings up and down several times, but when properly bled, 5 feet should be no problem.
 
-I had the super long line from the handlebar to the rear caliper. It worked just fine.
-I do prefer the dual action setup as I find that I only use the LHRB when things get technical or for long gnarly downhill sections.
-I not buying the over pressure issue causing loss of the sight glass mentioned above. Whether the pressure is from the brake peddle in the stock setup, or via a lever at the handlebar: the pressure required to operate the caliper is pushing on the sight glass and will be equal given an equal pressure at the caliper.
-I found the new LHRB (agreed its pricy) as good as the old one or converted clutch MC. Its design does take up less space on the bar. And its a little lighter.
 
andoman said:
-I not buying the over pressure issue causing loss of the sight glass mentioned above. Whether the pressure is from the brake peddle in the stock setup, or via a lever at the handlebar: the pressure required to operate the caliper is pushing on the sight glass and will be equal given an equal pressure at the caliper.
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Using the rear master cylinder the way it was indended (pushing down the pedal) does not pressurize the resevoir with the sight glass. It's just the volume between the M/C piston and the caliper piston that is pressurized. As soon as you move the pedal (and the piston), the resevoir is sealed off from the cylinder.
Hence the need for the o-ring. This o-ring effectively seals off the reservoir at all times, so the actual brake fluid volume available to the rear M/C will be the fluid in the line to the handlebar, and the handlebar reservoir. Doing it this way, you can pressurize the rear master's piston/cylinder volume (using the handlebar M/C) without having a fluid leakage into the reservoir.
 
OK, I did a little experiment the other day while out riding. I wanted to see just how much I still use my clutch even with the rekluse. I moved my clutch lever in on the bars so I couldn't reach it. Well it really screwed with me. I couldn't get used to not using it. I was surprised at how much I still use it. In and out of corners and climbing. I would really have to ride more without it to get use to not using it.
 
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Funny, I did same test this summer on a 3 day riding trip and found the opposite. I never use my clutch with the perfectly set up Z-start Pro. I rode 50+ miles each day with each set up and after, took off my clutch lever and removed the rear brake foot pedal, never to be installed again!

The LHRB is absolutely the best mod I've ever done and I've done them all. It has revolutionized my riding and it is so nice for tight woods. I save so much energy not having to use my right foot to modulate the rear brake. Plus, you can feel the rear brake so much easier using the LHRB which is a huge bonus as you never have to lock up the rear brake if you dont want.
 
firffighter said:
Funny, I did same test this summer on a 3 day riding trip and found the opposite. I never use my clutch with the perfectly set up Z-start Pro. I rode 50+ miles each day with each set up and after, took off my clutch lever and removed the rear brake foot pedal, never to be installed again!

The LHRB is absolutely the best mod I've ever done and I've done them all. It has revolutionized my riding and it is so nice for tight woods. I save so much energy not having to use my right foot to modulate the rear brake. Plus, you can feel the rear brake so much easier using the LHRB which is a huge bonus as you never have to lock up the rear brake if you dont want.
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I need to keep at it and try it again. I really like the idea of the LHRB because of the reason you stated about being able to feel the brake more.

On a professional side note since your a FF you might appreciate this? Our new fire Chief races MX and does the fire/police race at Glenn Helen every year. Although he does ride a CRF450, I told him I wouldn't hold it against him.
 
We have a few MX guys in the department, but since we live in the NW its mostly wood riders. I race a few enduros each year, but nothing serious.

One of the guys I work with personally, just had a bad get off 2 weeks ago and hit his head bad. He is still having issues with his memory and eyesight and will be off for months at least. Really gets you to thinking.
 
desertgasser300 said:
OK, I did a little experiment the other day while out riding. I wanted to see just how much I still use my clutch even with the rekluse. I moved my clutch lever in on the bars so I couldn't reach it. Well it really screwed with me. I couldn't get used to not using it. I was surprised at how much I still use it. In and out of corners and climbing. I would really have to ride more without it to get use to not using it.
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You know I was going to do this same thing prior to installing...... But I tool around on my bike too much as it is so I decided to just make the change and go with it.

And what a pay off it was. Within the first 5 miles I had it down.

It is hard to explain w/o actually riding one with LHRB (AND BELIEVE ME I TOLD MYSELF OVER AND OVER I WOULD NEVER EVER DO IT.....) With the LHRB it is so much easier to go from standing up to sitting down.
First AWESOME thing is it only takes me 1 sometimes 2 finger(s) to engage the brake (keep in mind I have the Brembo Dual Piston Caliper !!!!).
Second AWESOME is that I can come flying up to an obstacle or corner feather the LHRB lever, come into the corner and if right turn able to put my right foot down yet have rear brake control with LHRB --- Then BRAP back on the throttle and away I go.

I did have a few times when I was coming to a stop or finding neutral I would grab the LHRB thinking it was the clutch.... But that is no big deal to me and time will get rid of that.
 
Well I tried riding again without touching the clutch lever. This time I did it, didn't touch it not once. Had to make sure the idle was set perfect. And worked great....ordered the Rekluse LHRB should be hear Friday?
 
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desertgasser300 said:
Well I tried riding again without touching the clutch lever. This time I did it, didn't touch it not once. Had to make sure the idle was set perfect. And worked great....ordered the Rekluse LHRB should be hear Friday? Paid $250 from Rekluse.
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Usually I ride without touching the clutch lever at all. Have done so for at least a couple of years.
I have now bought a second hand Hayes Stroker Trail master cylinder off ebay. I expect it to arrive early next week. I'll make the foot master cylinder insert myself. It will take some time, but I'll report back if/when I have a working setup.
 
Moto7man said:
I would be interested in knowing how you build the foot master cylinder insert.
Photos would be awesome.
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The plan is to turn it from 6082 aluminium. My season's last race will be the Gotland Grand National in a month, I'm not sure if I will tear my brakes apart before that one is over. I have a couple of other (house) projects to attend to before the winter and frost hits us here in Norway, so the LHRB might be posponed until the cold and dark season.
 
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