2012 Models
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Just when you thought I couldn't make more of a mess of things...
This just in... One of our club mates owns a suspension shop (futureshoxs.com). His (now sold) KTM250 2-stroke was massaged with TTX internals stuffed inside (I guess) his KTM WP forks. Minor tuning and they were great. He's a fairly fast 50A guy who loves rocky hike-a-bike.
He is now the proud owner of a 2011 KTM250. Since I know how he likes to screw with everything (shim stacks, valves, bladders, needles...), I asked him what he planned to do with the suspenders on the 2011 bike? He said, "I don't think I'll do anything."
Would that the 201(2) Gas Gas can hit the top of the bell curve...
This just in... One of our club mates owns a suspension shop (futureshoxs.com). His (now sold) KTM250 2-stroke was massaged with TTX internals stuffed inside (I guess) his KTM WP forks. Minor tuning and they were great. He's a fairly fast 50A guy who loves rocky hike-a-bike.
He is now the proud owner of a 2011 KTM250. Since I know how he likes to screw with everything (shim stacks, valves, bladders, needles...), I asked him what he planned to do with the suspenders on the 2011 bike? He said, "I don't think I'll do anything."
Would that the 201(2) Gas Gas can hit the top of the bell curve...
The Australian Racetech distributor - Shock Treatment, spend a bit of time on the 45mm Zokes to reduce stiction. They take to the back sides of the bushes with a lathe making a slight angle/radius to them so they don't bind when they flex.
With twin chamber Showas on my GasGas I have lighter prechamber springs fitted. It makes them alot better suited to the 2stroke weight & feel. http://www.racetech.com/HTML_FILES/FRPS.html
With twin chamber Showas on my GasGas I have lighter prechamber springs fitted. It makes them alot better suited to the 2stroke weight & feel. http://www.racetech.com/HTML_FILES/FRPS.html
GMP
Active member
Haven't heard "bent" yet, that's new. I checked mine out very close. I measured the bores with an accurate micrometer and determined that it was just the coating that was worn off, no significant base metal damage. The damper rods were polished from the cartridge bushings, and obviously not hard coated just raw aluminum. They are very nice now. Everything else like bushings, cartridge bore, was fine.
Clay
Banned
Bob,
Those were Sachs forks on bikes with two really fast guys who were jumping big triples. We haven't had any bending issues on the Marzocchi tubes.
Clay
Bravo GMP! Well said. Sounds like the flying saucer just arrived from the Planet of the Perpetually Offended. Maybe we can load the Prez and all his pals on this saucer and shoot every last one of them back to said planet where they can all be Politically Correct, spend each other's money like drunken fools, and hump trees forever!
What would Jimi do?
Clay
Banned
PEB,
I'm not picking on you but I want to use your post as an example here. I've had a half dozen or so guys say "Whatever you do on forks,,,,stay away from the 50mm Zokes!" You think they're awesome.
A lot of guys seem to think the 45mm Zokes have too much flex but one of our AA support riders loves them.
Then you have guys in New England that could hardly ever use a stock fork because they think riding in places with more rock than dirt is fun.
Then you have FL sand whoops and GA red clay, two totally different types of terrain in less than 100 miles distance.
My point is.....It is impossible to work out suspension solutions that work for everyone, everywhere.
I really hope the new 48mm Zoke is going to hit a good mid point. If it doesn't, we plan to give the factory some settings that we think would work here in the US for the majority of riders. Regardless, we will never have suspension components and settings that work for everyone.
Clay
GMP
Active member
That's all anyone could reasonably ask for. Target an average B rider in mixed woods conditions. Being we are a bit more porky than the average Euro, up the springs one range to .44/5.4.
Us rock guys understand the specialty in setup. As long as the fork design responds to valving well and has no inherent flaws, no problem.
Us rock guys understand the specialty in setup. As long as the fork design responds to valving well and has no inherent flaws, no problem.
Fred1956
New member
You're gonna need more than an acupucturist if you keep stirring up trouble !
You know Clay is sitting there just shaking his head
RONALD BRUNDIGE
New member
I am happy with any fork that comes on my gas gas as long as I know that they are in route and selling!!! Keep up the good work clay and we as dealers will back you no matter what the fork is. I have used 45's 48's and 50's and every single one was much much better than a jap fork in the woods. Heck what do I know I am just a redneck from new england.
That would be dandy. That's what LTR put in my massaged Ohlins/Zokes in my '05 DE250. It would be nice not to have to spend another $200 on new springs fresh off the showroom floor.
Ya know, if I were to sell all my gear and get into bowling, I could get a ball set up just the way I want it, weight, density, hole size, hole spacing, color.
I hear the 1975 Earl Anthony Replica ball is a collectors item, now.
mrkartoom
New member
Between you and the guy with the pink tutu I'm beginning to wonder what kind of crowd did I get myself into?That would be dandy. That's what LTR put in my massaged Ohlins/Zokes in my '05 DE250. It would be nice not to have to spend another $200 on new springs fresh off the showroom floor.
Ya know, if I were to sell all my gear and get into bowling, I could get a ball set up just the way I want it, weight, density, hole size, hole spacing, color.
I hear the 1975 Earl Anthony Replica ball is a collectors item, now.
Clay
Banned
GMP....Since I weigh 220, heavier springs is a given request!
Fred....you're right! I shake my head with this crowd a lot!
AZRick....I bet you would try 100 different bowling balls before deciding which weight, holes, etc. Then you'd want to try different shoes. Then you'd experiment with the effects on your bowling game with different beer! LOL!
I'm glad you guys have a sense of humor!
Clay
Fred....you're right! I shake my head with this crowd a lot!
AZRick....I bet you would try 100 different bowling balls before deciding which weight, holes, etc. Then you'd want to try different shoes. Then you'd experiment with the effects on your bowling game with different beer! LOL!
I'm glad you guys have a sense of humor!
Clay
I like the 50mm Zoke Twin Chambers on my '09 Husky WR144. I thought they would be too much on the little 125/144, but work well. That said.... I think 48mm forks will be a good middle ground. Give us a 150 Clay!
