2014 Pics and Ride Report

kneehurts said:
I have a brand new 2012 ktm 250 xc-w. I have 1 hour on it. It won't idle for some reason. It was in a crate at dealer so it can't be bad gas. I think the ignition is bad. I had a dream last night I traded it for a GG 300. It was so real.
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Wasn't real at all, who would trade a Gasser for a KTM????:D
 
I made a comment privately to Clay about the weight issue. I'm late to this discussion to be sure but I see it's being talked about here. I weighed my 2011 EC300 outfitted with skid plate, hand guards, tail bag, front fender bag...etc. I think it had about a half a tank of gas. It was just a bit over 255 pounds. There is no way I believe the new bike weighs that much more than mine. It's simply not possible. I'm really at a loss to explain why that mags would report that weight. Does GG need to look at weight? yes, but something is wrong here.
 
I dunno, i weighed my 2012 XC300 with 3/4 tank of gas and it is 268lbs....
 
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Bobt250 said:
I made a comment privately to Clay about the weight issue. I'm late to this discussion to be sure but I see it's being talked about here. I weighed my 2011 EC300 outfitted with skid plate, hand guards, tail bag, front fender bag...etc. I think it had about a half a tank of gas. It was just a bit over 255 pounds. There is no way I believe the new bike weighs that much more than mine. It's simply not possible. I'm really at a loss to explain why that mags would report that weight. Does GG need to look at weight? yes, but something is wrong here.
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You don't have to believe it ... but it's true.

PlusOnePerformance
 
What I was using to weigh my bike wasn't the greatest device in the world. Perhaps I'm wrong about mine or the new bikes weigh more than mine. Do the new ones actuallt weigh that much more than an '11?

On this subject, I was riding today and I got off my bike to cut a vine with a machete. I asked a bystander to hold my bike. When I returned he said, "man that thing is heavy".
 
Bobt250 said:
I made a comment privately to Clay about the weight issue. I'm late to this discussion to be sure but I see it's being talked about here. I weighed my 2011 EC300 outfitted with skid plate, hand guards, tail bag, front fender bag...etc. I think it had about a half a tank of gas. It was just a bit over 255 pounds. There is no way I believe the new bike weighs that much more than mine. It's simply not possible. I'm really at a loss to explain why that mags would report that weight. Does GG need to look at weight? yes, but something is wrong here.
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You are very close. 255 to 260 with armour and rad guards is about right. I checked the magazine articles when everyone was dogging GasGas b/c the Betas were supposed to be "feathers". That was only way that Beta advocates could attack the GasGas machines, There was nothing else that they could argue. The Betas with a full tank of fuel are 252 pounds. I checked all the articles listing weight over a one year period and this is correct. Someone can say its wrong, but you need to show me objective evidence not unsubtantiated claims. Make sure to specify where this miracle weight loss on the Beta occurs. i.e frame, engine etc.The Gassers are about 8 pounds more per the magazines(except Dirt Rider whose claims that the GASGAS weight was 274 pounds and that the 300 ENGINE GASGAS WAS DOWN ON POWER were so stupid and outlandish that they lost all their credibility.) GasGas is cutting some weight off the 2014s at the engine, frame and wheels which should put it around the Beta.

http://www.gasgasrider.org/forum/showthread.php?t=15944
 
Moto7man said:
You are very close. 255 to 260 with armour and rad guards is about right. I checked the magazine articles when everyone was dogging GasGas b/c the Betas were supposed to be "feathers". That was only way that Beta advocates could attack the GasGas machines, There was nothing else that they could argue. The Betas with a full tank of fuel are 252 pounds. I checked all the articles listing weight over a one year period and this is correct. Someone can say its wrong, but you need to show me objective evidence not unsubtantiated claims. Make sure to specify where this miracle weight loss on the Beta occurs. i.e frame, engine etc.The Gassers are about 8 pounds more per the magazines(except Dirt Rider whose claims that the GASGAS weight was 274 pounds and that the 300 ENGINE GASGAS WAS DOWN ON POWER were so stupid and outlandish that they lost all their credibility.) GasGas is cutting some weight off the 2014s at the engine, frame and wheels which should put it around the Beta.
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Does my certified scale count? I sell and race both Betas and GasGas - in 2013 the Beta 300RR was 27 pounds lighter than the GasGas 300e with the same level of equipment. You can feel the difference in the shop and on the trail.

I would expect the 2014s to be closer because GasGas has decided to die-cast their engine cases, cast a new cylinder, machine their hubs etc. etc. I don't expect the gap will have completely closed.
 
twowheels said:
Does my certified scale count? I sell and race both Betas and GasGas - in 2013 the Beta 300RR was 27 pounds lighter than the GasGas 300e with the same level of equipment. You can feel the difference in the shop and on the trail.

I would expect the 2014s to be closer because GasGas has decided to die-cast their engine cases, cast a new cylinder, machine their hubs etc. etc. I don't expect the gap will have completely closed.
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Nope, it doesn't. So, the Beta is 252 pounds plus 27pounds= 279 Pounds for a gasgas? Really? I ain't buying that at all. Didn't you post in the other threads the GasGas weighed 22 pounds more the Beta? Why is it 27 pounds now? Explain where Beta is saving 27 (or is it 22 now?)pounds of weight?

I didn't ask you to explain why the GasGas is heavier. I asked you to explain why the Beta is lighter.
 
Pretty sure 258 - 231 is still 27 pounds. You don't have to believe it.
I still love me some GasGas but they are undeniably heavier than a Beta. Again, you don't have to believe it.

PlusOnePerformance
 
That '14 does look good. Even the purple shock looks ok. Any word on what springs will crossover with it, undoubtedly if I was to buy one I'd need to up the spring rate.
And is there no LSC clicker on the compression adjuster?
 
I heard the rieger suspension is very good , I was over at the husky uk team getting some sprockets , they use rieger shocks and internals in their kayaba forks , he said they were out testing a shock with Danny mccanny and when he came back he said that's much better than the one he had on his race bike , the guy from rieger replied , but Danny that's our standard shock .

Oh and nice bike too , I'd like another new one but the depreciation in just over a year is too much of a hit
 
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