2018 Starter Fix Thread - Continued.

I think I've finally got my starter fixed , I did the Bendix fix & it only lasted so long .
I fitted a new starter sprocket as the last 1 had a few teeth missing , I then noticed I had teeth missing on the top of my Bendix , I bought a Vespas Bendix on the off chance it might fit 14/40 tooth .
It was about 4mm longer so I made a 4mm gasket & my bike is now starting as it should .
Time will tell if it lasts .
Stuart
 
stuart said:
I think I've finally got my starter fixed , I did the Bendix fix & it only lasted so long .
I fitted a new starter sprocket as the last 1 had a few teeth missing , I then noticed I had teeth missing on the top of my Bendix , I bought a Vespas Bendix on the off chance it might fit 14/40 tooth .
It was about 4mm longer so I made a 4mm gasket & my bike is now starting as it should .
Time will tell if it lasts .
Stuart
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Can you link what bendix did you got? i'm willing to try a new bendix.
 
I forgot to say , I had to file the 2 bolt holes at the top of the starter to allow the starter to sit about 4mm higher due to the 4mm gasket I made .
 
ssaulnier said:
Nate I am not sure what the difference is but some bikes seem to have more friction in the starter assembly, gearing, shafts, etc and/or the CDI needs more voltage to fire the spark plug.

If everything is properly toleranced as designed and the CDI is a nice sparky one then the stock battery should be fine, like on your bike. Thanks for the reminder that some work just fine.

But the factory has recommended the 240 CCA antigravity as part of the solution for those of us that are having trouble. Fingers crossed mine keeps starting with the new antigravity .......

Cheers Steve
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The only things I have done differently from stock is add a earth strap, bigger leads as I had a heap left over from work and the wet mod. But it started from cold from the get go. I only did the wet mod so I don?t have to bother lubricating the bendix every 5th ride. And the leads were done because the stock ones were a bit of a joke.

I agree with the lack of friction. It is not a complicated system so hopefully everyone can get a working button.
 
Heres my fix

So my new to me 18 wouldn't start off the button cold. My friend had the cable and cdi done to no avail along with a 240cca battery . I tested and saw no spark during cranking. So I ran a 6 gauge car cable with 1/4 lugs from solenoid to starter 8gauge from battery to solenoid . Used old starter wire as a secondary ground from battery to starter bracket bolt. Cranked her and spark galore . Fired right up again and again. Those factory wires could not supply enough current and probably caused starter damage to some. $4 for the lugs and $6 worth of starter cable. I'll let you know if anything changes . But I'd recommend this to anyone still running the stock cables even if your starters working, $10 well spent to prevent future starter wear . Good luck
 
Just a quick question, if i measure with a multimeter, with the negative on the starter engine body and a positive on the + starter engine coil, how many Volts should i read? Mine is reading +/- 8V. the batery is reading 13v.

I'm a noob with eletronics, i need tome guidance, if i put the multimeter on the batery negative and the positive on de starter selenoid on the coil that goes to de motor i got also 8V.
 
The dreaded starter motor curse has struck , first started acting up at around 40 hours.....soldiered on for another 10 hours and now having to kick it as nothing at all from the starting system apart from a click from the solenoid

Have starter motor off and want to dismantle. Can anypne confirm what spanner / socket i need to use on the srarter motor through bolts? 6 mm seems too big , 5 mm is too small!

Am I missing something here?
 
Bendix cover exploded!

Hi fellas,
I'm trying to get the starting sorted on my 2nd hand 2018 300 - Factory fixes have already been completed on it but it still wasn't starting so...

I have just replace all things starter related (including ignition sprocket) apart from ignition (stator?) cover.

Long story short, the brand new Bendix cover (from Rieju with bearing) apparently explode in the shop when they tried to start the bike under load. The bendix apparently pushed back with enough force to do this!

1. Has anyone heard of this occurring before?

I'm being told there may be an issue with the ignition cover and the Bendix alignment (this is from the Australian importer) and I now have 2 options - new ignition cover or Rieju have modified cover that houses the bevel/helical gears and bendix and other stuff in an oil filled single unit.

2.a) Has anyone heard of this miss-alignment before?
2.b) Has anyone heard or seen this single unit option?
2.c) Has there been any feedback or reviews on the single unit?

I've only just started riding (other than on farm bikes years ago) and love it but if feel like this 2018 is breaking up with me (no pun intended).

3. Should i stick it out or upgrade?

Bins.
 
I cannot understand how the cover could have been damaged. It may have been assembled incorrectly....perhaps something got wedged in the bearing housing part of the cover.

My Rieju cover fit perfectly & was not misaligned.

I have no knowledge of the oil filled cover.

I am using a FirePower #490 2500 120cca lithium ion battery. It does not have enough power to start the bike after sitting for a few days. I kick start it once & the the starter works fine for the entire ride.

My son has the same bike. He uses an AntiGravity #YTZ7-8 240cca lithium battery. He does not have the upgraded Rieju cover. 40+ hours on the bike. Battery has enough power to start the bike w/o first kick starting.

Hope this helps!!
 
Thanks Tech!

The shop has said a new engineered starter enclosed system is coming in a couple of weeks....no more info that that.

I've had new 240 CCA lithium and lead acid batteries and it's still locked up so I don't think it's power as such.

I do think there is something with the alignment of the pinion and Bendix as the recess' are worn. The screw holes (sorry for poor tech language) for the bendix cover were all chopped out and I had to put coil inserts to hold the cover on!

I can replace the housing but think I will see what the cost of the "complete package" is first.

I'll let you know what happens and hopefully a photo of the new cover...

Bins

Tech said:
I cannot understand how the cover could have been damaged. It may have been assembled incorrectly....perhaps something got wedged in the bearing housing part of the cover.

My Rieju cover fit perfectly & was not misaligned.

I have no knowledge of the oil filled cover.

I am using a FirePower #490 2500 120cca lithium ion battery. It does not have enough power to start the bike after sitting for a few days. I kick start it once & the the starter works fine for the entire ride.

My son has the same bike. He uses an AntiGravity #YTZ7-8 240cca lithium battery. He does not have the upgraded Rieju cover. 40+ hours on the bike. Battery has enough power to start the bike w/o first kick starting.

Hope this helps!!
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No real silver bullet!

So the fix was a little different to what I had envisaged.

Ultimately Rieju put the package together - ignition cover, helical gears, pinion, bearings etc - and sent it to the shop for install. They also sent a new starter and bendix and it's now a wet mod - and that's it!

The mechanic noticed that the helical gears spun much more freely than previously and while I did try and start it cold one morning, it didn't start but once warm, kicks over beautifully.

I've not been riding too much unfortunately but hopefully it'll last for many years...
 
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