2019 GP edition is out
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barossi73
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Currently the 2stroke has an advantage over 4 in that its simple,easy and relatively cheap to maintain,these sorts of issues dont help and should have been sorted b4 release.Keep it simple,thats the advantage.Adding complexity and cost doesnt help the accessibility of the sport.And i keep hearing riders say they prefer the power delivery of the carb anyway,esp in the techy stuff.
Also,plenty of us enjoy working on our bikes ourselves,without the need for specialised equipment/tools.eg.Jakobi,who has been tinkering with his brand new 250 for months and has yet to start it
Also,plenty of us enjoy working on our bikes ourselves,without the need for specialised equipment/tools.eg.Jakobi,who has been tinkering with his brand new 250 for months and has yet to start it
Jakobi
Super Moderator
And that's the truth right there! In saying that with time diagnostic equipment does become more freely available.
With my car I can easily check fault codes, and if I wanted to invest a few dollars could start modifying my ecu doing some road testing and tuning as well. In saying that, it's taken a long time for that to become affordable to the home tuner.
With my car I can easily check fault codes, and if I wanted to invest a few dollars could start modifying my ecu doing some road testing and tuning as well. In saying that, it's taken a long time for that to become affordable to the home tuner.
Xitemntracing
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No 2019 gp
Had one on order and was told by dealer no 300 gp will be produced until July and may be a 2020 release...?..
Had one on order and was told by dealer no 300 gp will be produced until July and may be a 2020 release...?..
stabak
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it is true...
shawbagga
New member
Are there any 18+ EC/XC200s(as in were any actually produced)?
Torrot is gonna have to up the factory capacity if they want to gain market share. Bikes late to the market or not getting there at all was GG's downfall last time around! Be a shame for them to start slipping after they've made such good inroads the past 18 months!
Torrot is gonna have to up the factory capacity if they want to gain market share. Bikes late to the market or not getting there at all was GG's downfall last time around! Be a shame for them to start slipping after they've made such good inroads the past 18 months!
thumperrider1
New member
Is this related to the fire they had?
shawbagga
New member
Any particular part/s you know of GGM out of curiousity?
shawbagga
New member
Ahh yep sounds about right obviously something to do with the cylinder or head seeing as the rest is the same as the 250/300. Was referring to the GPs though.
Interesting on the 200s as GG AUS website has them listed for sale but not available.
Two years in a row. TBH I'm getting quite annoyed by it.
The plan was 2 bikes, same brand, 300 + 200. Father and Son, Share spares etc.
We took a gamble on the 19's being real, knowing the 18 was never going to materialise and bought my XC. If I end up having to go Beta for the 200 once his legs are full sized, I'll be following brand with a Beta 300 and retro fitting some KYB.
TL/DR. It IS costing GG sales.
john r b
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UHM, A member here reviewed his new 2019 200 His name or handle is ylisuutari from the Neitherlands i believe .Who has a 200 .so this is not a North American bike ONLY!!!!!And IT'S being sold in the EU!! Cylinders are all made by S3 200 thru 300 so please explane how this was the issue... Getting back to last year's fire ?? that prevented importation. So very strange that only the 200 got charred.. I have a hard time believing any of this not to mention the article from Miki Arpa. Who stated the 200 is dead!!!!
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SS109
Active member
Whoa, I somehow missed that. Got a link so I can read it? That would be a real bummer.
Anders
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ylisuutari is from Finland.
Not a lot of 200s have been sold in Europe either. None in Norway so far. I have friends waiting eagerly.
Caravan Monster
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GG UK are advertising a 2019 200:
http://www.gasgasuk.com/bikes/
GG ought to promote the easy to ride characteristics of the 200, it's kind of like the 2t version of the 250cc 4t enduros that doesn't punish throttle control errors like the bigger bikes.
With regard to the TPI KTMs, I had a quick go on one and it was good to ride, very smooth and felt light. I guess they will sort out the engine management and oil pump problems. What would concern me is the longeveity of components with the bikes being so light. Probably fine for competitive riders that buy a new bike every year. Second hand, no thanks.
http://www.gasgasuk.com/bikes/
GG ought to promote the easy to ride characteristics of the 200, it's kind of like the 2t version of the 250cc 4t enduros that doesn't punish throttle control errors like the bigger bikes.
With regard to the TPI KTMs, I had a quick go on one and it was good to ride, very smooth and felt light. I guess they will sort out the engine management and oil pump problems. What would concern me is the longeveity of components with the bikes being so light. Probably fine for competitive riders that buy a new bike every year. Second hand, no thanks.
RudolfHucker
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In the UK, for the 1st time in 12 years, not only are there still KTM 2 strokes left in dealer showrooms but also KTM UK has discounted the TPI models by 20% to try and sell them.
Usually, all the new 2T models have been sold by the end of October and 4T models are being discounted heavily.
Meanwhile, used carburetted 2T enduro model values have never been higher.......
Regarding the GG 200s, I haven't seen one yet in the UK (I haven't seen a Beta 200 either) but I have heard that the GP models are due to arrive very soon. I shall be seeing the UK importer at the weekend so I shall ask him about it.
200s have never been particularly popular in the UK as there is no defined class for them in competions. You may as well ride a 250 in the same class and benefit from the better power.
Usually, all the new 2T models have been sold by the end of October and 4T models are being discounted heavily.
Meanwhile, used carburetted 2T enduro model values have never been higher.......
Regarding the GG 200s, I haven't seen one yet in the UK (I haven't seen a Beta 200 either) but I have heard that the GP models are due to arrive very soon. I shall be seeing the UK importer at the weekend so I shall ask him about it.
200s have never been particularly popular in the UK as there is no defined class for them in competions. You may as well ride a 250 in the same class and benefit from the better power.
