Beta Smoker
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roostafish
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Intriguing! I hope it's true. I hope they develop EFI along with OSSA. Fun things on the horizon, because you know once one company gets the EFI going, everyone else will develop it too.
The Beta two-stroke is a tight lipped thing. I was told by American Beta, Beta Italy has no plan to build a two-stroke, full size motor, enduro. I sell Beta's and I've asked about it before...
Beta I would think would produce their motor in house for this project??? Beta has vast knowledge of producing two-strokes, they build/built motors for KTM 50, 65, 85, and 105, 50, and 65 until 2009, 85 and 105 still I believe?... I had people ask me what the large "B" logo cast into parts was for years at different shops I worked. I learned from American Beta!..
Beta makes a full size, liquid cooled, 6 speed, 50cc two-stroke in Europe as a homlogation special commuter/weekend racer that looks cool. They do not bring it into the US, I asked if we could get 50 or so orders we could do it! Also they make a full range of trials two-strokes. As well as two-stroke scooters. Their production is about 20,000 bikes, they produce a few thousand engines for other companies as well.
Beta I would think would produce their motor in house for this project??? Beta has vast knowledge of producing two-strokes, they build/built motors for KTM 50, 65, 85, and 105, 50, and 65 until 2009, 85 and 105 still I believe?... I had people ask me what the large "B" logo cast into parts was for years at different shops I worked. I learned from American Beta!..
Beta makes a full size, liquid cooled, 6 speed, 50cc two-stroke in Europe as a homlogation special commuter/weekend racer that looks cool. They do not bring it into the US, I asked if we could get 50 or so orders we could do it! Also they make a full range of trials two-strokes. As well as two-stroke scooters. Their production is about 20,000 bikes, they produce a few thousand engines for other companies as well.
Call me crazy but I'm not a big fan of EFI. At least on a 2 stroke. Too much that "could" go wrong with electronics in wet environment. Jetting a 2 stroke is pretty simple so I don't see a need for it. I had a KXF last year and it was nice on the 4 stroke. But it did add to my maintenance re-greasing all the connectors. I was always paranoid about getting dirt or something that would take the fuel pump out too. CHA-CHING!
Vindicator
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What I've been hearing from this side is that Sherco would present a 2ST next year..with it's own engine. I hope its true, the bike is really nice and this is what the 2ST really need, Investment !
Curious to see for how long will the Japanese ignore this .
Curious to see for how long will the Japanese ignore this .
roostafish
Gold Level Site Supporter
I personally hope the Japanese continue to ignore this. It's been the best thing ever to happen for Gas Gas Husqvarna, KTM, et al.
The late 90's pampers were much more fun,, they were the size of a KX 100 big wheel model with a 280 trials engine and full DOT lights and was about 180#'s if that.. felt like a toy.. A club member got one for his wife that rode.. She was only 5'2" and she rode some of the nastiest trails on our enduros on it.. plus rode the road back to the start after working the check.. I so wanted one of those bikes to play with..
Vindicator
New member
That's like KTM's Freeride 350, a fun bike that it's not enduro nor trials.
Sherco is to present a full blown Enduro similar to
I have now seen pictures on the internet of full size Beta 2st's. Offroadchampions had one up not long ago. So we will see what comes of it. Article said 300 one year then 250 next..ect...
Sherco's would be cool if the cost in the states here was even reasonable! I think the last I checked they retailed for $11,000 something. Importer said Sherco has no desire to lower price on enduro line...
Cheers,
Rick
Sherco's would be cool if the cost in the states here was even reasonable! I think the last I checked they retailed for $11,000 something. Importer said Sherco has no desire to lower price on enduro line...
Cheers,
Rick
nambo-trev
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Nice looking bike!
GMP
Active member
That looks like a very nice bike with all the right features and parts, with the exception of the fork perhaps. Independent and adjustable PV sounds interesting. Havn't heard any bad things about Betas. If it performs and the mfg quality is good, as well as the parts supply chain, look out!
I don't completely get the Japaneese phiosophy either. They could easily deliver a knockout punch with a brand new 2stroke woods bike design with all of the quality advantages and have an instant following of aftermarket suppliers. They probably can't sell them cheap enough unless they build a million of them, so its not worth it.
I don't completely get the Japaneese phiosophy either. They could easily deliver a knockout punch with a brand new 2stroke woods bike design with all of the quality advantages and have an instant following of aftermarket suppliers. They probably can't sell them cheap enough unless they build a million of them, so its not worth it.
