Enduro Cross: Why so interested???

Bandit9

Bandit9

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I just don't get the fascination with Enduro X. It is boring as hell to watch. It isn't even remotely close to an Enduro. (Neither is NEPG, but that is another topic) A 65 year old man on a TTR 125 could clean all the obstacles. There is no speed, everyone is doing 15 mph.

What is the big deal to the fan? I know why the industry likes it, I just can't ever see myself plunking down $50 or whatever it is or traveling any distance to go and watch it. I don't even watch it on TV.

What is so exciting about it?

Also why does every promoter out there think it is necessary to ruin a Hare Scramble or Enduro by putting artificial obstacles on the course? Tractor tires? Telephone poles? WTF is happening?
 
I would have to totally disagree with you. If you are into competition it doesn't get any more intense than endurocross. I would way rather watch a endurocross than I would a supercross. The pro riders just amaze me at the things they can do on a bike.
Speaking of endurocross, we will be having our annual race Jan 4th, 2014 in Rapid City,SD.. For more info you can go to mx4fun.com.
 
I'm as competitive as it comes. I'll death match you over Checkers. SX is boring as well.

Maybe to the people and kids who don't race or who don't ride at all I could possibly understand it.
 
Cricket, Golf, Football, Tennis... Isn't it all the same.. All fun to play, but none all that spectacular to watch, but without a doubt they all pull a crowd.
 
Bandit9 said:
I'm as competitive as it comes. I'll death match you over Checkers. SX is boring as well.
Maybe to the people and kids who don't race or who don't ride at all I could possibly understand it.
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To me the problem with Enduro or harescrambles is that it isn't spectator friendly, people have to wander waaay out on the course to see the gnarly stuff. They don't charge spectators at enduros......
Enter EnduroX which puts all the gnarly in an 'easy' to see atmosphere. Even Supercross doesn't relate to the spectator unless they've ever walked a pro track, those guys are doing some serious stuff out there, but anyone can relate to a big pile of rocks, telephone poles, etc.
I think it's all about the entertainment value, any thing that gets a guy/kid off the couch to go watch and then gets them interested in a motorcycle is good for the industry.
If you tell a 'non believer' "I ride enduro" and they've seen enduroX then they think they understand

All about the Benjamins in the end:D
 
I don't know, I watch the same guys in a regular outdoor extreme enduro or regular race and it is interesting. Scale down everything and put it inside a building, and it last 15 mins, not so interesting....

I'll admit that my personality leads me to be a participant and not a spectator. However, I went to Last Man Standing and thought it was pretty spectacular the way they climbed Joshua Tree and Triple Threat etc....you know, like real obstacles.

So far, I'm not so impressed by EX with jumping over a log or two or riding over a few rocks for a few laps.

I would just chalk it up to I'm just getting old I guess, but I'm only 40 and have thought that EX sort of blows since it came out years ago.

It's just me, I'm sure everyone who attends will have a good time and that is what really is important.
 
Have you tried riding any endurocross obstacles? My local riding spot has a novice endurocross course. Once you try it yourself you can appreciate the skill required to navigate the obstacles at speed. And yes, it's good for promoters because it's easier to sell seating in a stadium than on a natural course.
 
Darkside said:
Have you tried riding any endurocross obstacles? My local riding spot has a novice endurocross course. Once you try it yourself you can appreciate the skill required to navigate the obstacles at speed. And yes, it's good for promoters because it's easier to sell seating in a stadium than on a natural course.
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I've run about 150 enduros and hare scrambles. I believe I've jumped a few logs and seen a few rocks.
 
I like watching enduroX, but the best trail in our hare scrambles series is inevitably the EX bypass. It sucks too when you can blow a lap's worth of energy just to get over the artificial stuff.

We see lots of rocks and logs in the woods, and that's why I go there.

Having said that, I'll see you in Vegas!
 
I'm really messed then because I love enduroX, supercross and motogp! I get as hyped for those sports seasons to start as I do the nfl season!
 
I like Moto GP and all the Superbike series. I've been to see AMA Superbikes. I liked it live and in person. I don't even ride street. I also love Isle of Man TT.
 
You should give it a try and go watch a big Enduro cross. the obstacles are about twice as big as the appear on tv and the good guys are going about as three times as fast as what tv shows.

our local pro, Tony Joiner who got 4th over two weeks ago at the National enduro in OK, raced one a few years ago and the top pros made him look like a novice rider.

the speed and commitment those guys have is pretty crazy!!
 
I use to be a huge AMA super bike fan in the late 90's but feel it's really changed for the worse. That being said world super bike and motogp have really heated up. I think this year will be a more competitive than ever SX field so I'm pumped for that as well. I can understand why some wouldn't like watching enduroX though, I bet when your actually at one though it would be intense, loud and the smell of burning 2-stroke oil and beer what could be better than that!!
 
've run about 150 enduros and hare scrambles. I believe I've jumped a few logs and seen a few rocks.
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I'm not doubting your skills or experience. I'm just saying that on these tracks, the obstacles come one right after another without a breather or time to prepare. It's crazy watching those guys try to fly through chopped wood and rock gardens.

It's better to view on tv when you can see the whole course. When I watch gncc races on tv, it's hard to see the whole scope of the course. Speaking from a person who has never raced one. :(
 
That is cool, I don't mean to try and ruin it for anyone else. It's just everything lately is "EX this" or "EX that" and I just don't see what the big deal is. For me, being out in the woods or wilderness on singletrack is a big part of why I like Enduro. So you can see why this sanitized version of it doesn't light my fire.

I don't know why even started this thread, it isn't like I'm going to find out something that is going to make me all of a sudden want to go watch one.

Rock On and hope ya'll have a good time at the events.
 
twowheels said:
I like watching enduroX, but the best trail in our hare scrambles series is inevitably the EX bypass. It sucks too when you can blow a lap's worth of energy just to get over the artificial stuff.

We see lots of rocks and logs in the woods, and that's why I go there.

Having said that, I'll see you in Vegas!
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Not before I see you in Vegas! This will quite possibly be the best weekend since 2001!!!

That being said, who the heck doesn't enjoy watching dirt bikes race in any capacity? Just weird to me?
 
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After reading this I decided to watch a whole race. I like a little bit of every motorcycle racing but I don't go out of my way to watch. I liked it about as much as I like watching motox.I'm not a big watcher of anything Prefer to be a do'er myself Anyway I would think all those guys would want to ride 125 150 200cc bikes on those courses Surprised to seee big bikes
 
Stoby said:
Anyway I would think all those guys would want to ride 125 150 200cc bikes on those courses Surprised to seee big bikes
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I would have thought so too(for myself), 'till I watched a someone on a 2t 125. Up & down through the gears...repeat...repeat...repeat...etc.
It looked like a heckuva lot of work. Everyone else sounded like their bikes were always in one gear...easier with the extra torque(I would think).
 
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