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Unfortunately the "Ohm Ohm" market is close to inexistent. And i presume that's why Torrot stated that it will pay "top cash" only for a 3 year feasibility study, they don't really know if will work out or not.

p.s. the big problem with the "Ohm Ohm" bikes for adults is that you can't charge them while out in the woods, one can't just take out a battery cell and pass it on to his riding buddy
 
..p.s. the big problem with the "Ohm Ohm" bikes for adults is that you can't charge them while out in the woods, one can't just take out a battery cell and pass it on to his riding buddy

Around here, all riding is closed circuit. Never further away from the hauler than a 10 minute walk. Changing batterys won't be a problem
 
Unfortunately the "Ohm Ohm" market is close to inexistent. And i presume that's why Torrot stated that it will pay "top cash" only for a 3 year feasibility study, they don't really know if will work out or not.

p.s. the big problem with the "Ohm Ohm" bikes for adults is that you can't charge them while out in the woods, one can't just take out a battery cell and pass it on to his riding buddy

Actually the future of e-bikes looks very bright from my viewpoint. Perhaps not for adult size off-road as Poelinca describes, but the big picture is the kids market along with a adult size street machinery. I watched rider after rider get off the Zero bikes at the AIME demo event in Florida, all with big smiles and making comments of how surprised they were at the performance, comfort and fun level.

Brammo, Zero, Oset, Volta and others have some really cool bikes right now and I can't wait to see how the product line expands over the next 5 years.

Exciting times with E-technology!
 
Sure, the kids market it's starting to get shape, but the big cash comes from the adult market.

A kids bike goes goes for 650-1500 euros around here, brand new with batteries. That is a good price if you ask me for a kids bike.

On the other hand the adult market is light years away, a Zero bike goes for around 16k dollars ... an e-ride get's close to 20k with the batteries.

We have been waiting for batteries to get cheaper for 5-10 years now, to be able to afford an electric ride. The technology is simply not here yet, and that makes the future to be uncertain.

All of the above do not mean we will not get there, it's simply uncertain if and when.
 
The German company ETA, that built the electric kit for Gasgas trials showed up in the paddock of a large race in Sweden, showing off a new prototype..

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Unfortunately the "Ohm Ohm" market is close to inexistent. And i presume that's why Torrot stated that it will pay "top cash" only for a 3 year feasibility study, they don't really know if will work out or not.

p.s. the big problem with the "Ohm Ohm" bikes for adults is that you can't charge them while out in the woods, one can't just take out a battery cell and pass it on to his riding buddy

I am not looking at it as a strictly electric bike company. It "appears" that they might be passionate about dirt bikes, and they know to have future riders (come back buyers over a lifetime) that you need to start them while they are young...like most sports.

E-Bikes are a great introduction for kids into the sport.
 
When they can provide a 60 mi. (100 km) range for single track riding, I'll get my wallet out. Just keep the price not more 150% of a current bike and include a spare set of batteries.
 
When they can provide a 60 mi. (100 km) range for single track riding, I'll get my wallet out. Just keep the price not more 150% of a current bike and include a spare set of batteries.

Well, here in the U.S. there won't be an issue getting an electric bike past our EPA to get a street legal dual sport....

jeff
 
Well, here in the U.S. there won't be an issue getting an electric bike past our EPA to get a street legal dual sport....

jeff
Next year Jeff....the e-bike business will get serious. One particular manufacturer will be shifting up here in the US, by lowering MSRP and having the sales force to put their e-bike into more dealerships. The next step of e-bikes is coming at us faster than most are aware. Its' right around the corner ;)
 
When they can provide a 60 mi. (100 km) range for single track riding, I'll get my wallet out. Just keep the price not more 150% of a current bike and include a spare set of batteries.

Hear hear. That would be excellent for high altitude and noise sensitive riding areas. Maybe it would improve the land use aspect in the eastern us
 
When they can provide a 60 mi. (100 km) range for single track riding, I'll get my wallet out. Just keep the price not more 150% of a current bike and include a spare set of batteries.

I get too distracted to keep rides around 60 miles...I always find something...oooh, where does that trail go!? Typical trail ride for me is 100-150 miles. I can get roughly 80-90 miles out of my current setup, kinda pains me I have to go back to the truck and refuel, and finding a gas station where I go is few and far inbetween...or none at all.

One of my biggest gripe about my GG, I can't get a bigger tank than 3.2. Don't even think they make one for the 2012-15's.

Aftermarket tank size would prevent me from buying another GG or Beta for that matter. Where I can get a 4 or 5 gallon tank for the KTM/Husky's. But I know I am rare bird for riding needs, so...
 
Next year Jeff....the e-bike business will get serious. One particular manufacturer will be shifting up here in the US, by lowering MSRP and having the sales force to put their e-bike into more dealerships. The next step of e-bikes is coming at us faster than most are aware. Its' right around the corner ;)

I agree. I rode the older generation Zeros a couple years ago and was very surprised at their capabilities. I rode the e-motion trials bike this year and was 'wow!'

Most people don't seem to be aware of how fast the market will change. And it will change sooner than most expect.
We are in about the same spot that computers were in about 1990 or so. Most people still didn't have them, they were expensive and not very powerful. As the technology improved and costs came down, they hit a tipping point around 1994-1995 when it took right off, especially due to the rise of a thing called the Internet, and software applications.(range)

Ebikes will hit that tipping point probably around 2020 or so and most of the market(85% or more) will be electric by 2025.
The technology is improving very quickly and costs are dropping a bit faster each year. Range is getting better each year as well. Along with charging times etc. At a certain point all those will intersect at a sweet spot and the market will explode. First with the mx market, as their range demands will be met first, then the short course enduro market and then trail riding. The key range target will be about 2.5-3 hrs of solid run time for trails. That's the amount of seat time the average hacker actually spends when going out for a ride. The trials market is already switching quickly. When that range meets the ~$10,000 price point, people will start switching over faster and faster. The kids riding ebikes now will be grown up by then and already used to them.
People will really become used to the amount of maintenance these things don't need.

It will be here before most know it.

I've been using this market shift as ammo in my discussions with govt and land managers when I push for more access. I explain them about how the market is shifting & that ebikes are taking over and they make next to no noise. I ask them if they think it would be better to allow managed access first, or wait till zillions of noiseless bikes are zipping thru the forest uncontrolled and uncatchable? They get my point pretty quick. A kid on a loud mx bike is easy to find. One on an electric one will be like trying to catch Bigfoot......
 
I get too distracted to keep rides around 60 miles...I always find something...oooh, where does that trail go!? Typical trail ride for me is 100-150 miles. I can get roughly 80-90 miles out of my current setup, kinda pains me I have to go back to the truck and refuel, and finding a gas station where I go is few and far inbetween...or none at all.

One of my biggest gripe about my GG, I can't get a bigger tank than 3.2. Don't even think they make one for the 2012-15's.

Aftermarket tank size would prevent me from buying another GG or Beta for that matter. Where I can get a 4 or 5 gallon tank for the KTM/Husky's. But I know I am rare bird for riding needs, so...
There are options...

http://www.justgastanks.com/acerbis-front-auxiliary-fuel-tanks/
http://www.justgastanks.com/acerbis-auxiliary-handlebar-fuel-tank-0-6-gallon-white/
http://www.justgastanks.com/acerbis-1-6g-rear-auxiliary-fuel-tank/
 
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