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Dead Enduro Line
Pit(KTM) has lied about everything else so its the same stuff. The GG enduro line, including the Ranger, are some excellent machines, that is exactly why KTM will never sell the enduro line. KTM bought GG to kill the enduro line.
Interesting...
Pit(KTM) has lied about everything else so its the same stuff. The GG enduro line, including the Ranger, are some excellent machines, that is exactly why KTM will never sell the enduro line. KTM bought GG to kill the enduro line.
Interesting...
There are also rumors that JotaGas is interested. The problem is, these informations are like a gnawed off bone. There's no flesh on it. So there's a little bit of taste but nothing we would consider as a serious information. And, there is no serious source for all of these rumors.
I'd love to see the "Phoenix"-bikes survive, even if it is under a different brand name (except KTM).
Anders
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I don't think they have built enduro bikes for quite some time now.
Marketing principles....
You maximize revenue by having three tiers of product to sell...
As an example...
Adding gasgas gives them brand to position at "lower tier" with husky and ktm above it....
In the USA this is why GM has Chevy, Buick, Cadillac brands (as an example).
Jeff
You maximize revenue by having three tiers of product to sell...
As an example...
- Average model for cost conscious consumer...
- Premium model for mainstream market
- Custom model for customer willing to pay premium for best product
Adding gasgas gives them brand to position at "lower tier" with husky and ktm above it....
In the USA this is why GM has Chevy, Buick, Cadillac brands (as an example).
Jeff
Agreed, but if they are going to produce a bike on the same platform as KTM/Husky how much would they have to de-content the bike to make it attractive vs. just buying a KTM or Husky? The cost to produce the bike won't be much less even if they went with cheaper suspension/brakes. If they passed that savings on 100% to the dealer my guess is the dealer would have to discount the bike that much more against a comparable KTM/Husky to make the bike attractive. So now dealers are subsidizing the price difference with their own lost profit. I just got a new KTM 150 OTD for $6,100. Assuming there was a 150 GG how much meat is left on the bone if the platform is essentially the same?
I'm not saying you are wrong. Just trying to wrap my head around it.
shawbagga
New member
It's a good product & would recoup some cash for KTM without being a major threat to sales(small niche brands).
shawbagga
New member
I've heard(from a very reputable source!) that the current GG bike tooling/rights is currently up for tender & most likely will remain Spanish. JTG have their own engine & complete bike about to be released.
Let’s wait and see what will come.
Maybe Ossa is coming back or JTG will bring an Enduro bike or another brand....
Gasgas like we know it is dead and will never come back. Parts for the bikes before 2012 are already rar, like engine parts for the 125. Thank god that enough aftermarket parts are available to keep the bike running and that I have 3 complete spare engines
What ever will come from another brand, it will be better than KTM.
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Maybe Ossa is coming back or JTG will bring an Enduro bike or another brand....
Gasgas like we know it is dead and will never come back. Parts for the bikes before 2012 are already rar, like engine parts for the 125. Thank god that enough aftermarket parts are available to keep the bike running and that I have 3 complete spare engines
What ever will come from another brand, it will be better than KTM.
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MxPhlipper
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How much of Laia Sanz's GasGas at Dakar this year was KTM? Other than the stickers I'd bet none. Probably what we can expect with the GG enduro line at KTM, unless they kill it out right and market just the GG trials. I joined the JotaGas forum and have been checking in on it daily. GG endure to SWM sounds interesting. I looked at a SWM in Cali in Oct and was impressed. They've tested well. Trying to get my brother to buy one! 
blitz11
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Well, considering that her bike was a four-stroke, and that the last four-stroke GasGas (outside of the side-valve trials bike) was powered by a Yamaha 250cc four-stroke engine, i am would bet a pretty big amount that it was ALL KTM. Laia was a KTM rider before KTM bought GasGas, so the "GasGas" she was riding was a KTM.
Vindicator
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Laia's 2020 Dakar bike is a KTM with different stickers. Same as the bikes GG used on their last Dakar event some years ago.
Gasser Nate
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Long live the Villa! Looks familiar!
Gasser Nate
New member
As long as Ajp doesn?t start making the parts. They were a shockingly built and manufactured bike.
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