How About A EC200 ????

I'm getting confused about the 2013 models:confused:

Where is the ec200 in the 2013 lineup?

But they have a 300f, Is that a big bore Yammy 250f engine?
 
I almost went the 250 route as well this year but later changed my mind. I've ridden the 250 and 300 and do not feel " more tired" riding the 300 at all. I find the 250 feels lighter on the tra but I'm sure that's rotational mass and not actual weight, but would never give up the forgiveness of my 300. My next bike will undoubtably be a 300. Best of both worlds you can race it and IMHO not get tired and make a few mistakes here and there and still recover we're on a 250 I don't think it would work the same for me.
 
This is like trying to explain a rainbow to a blind person. No, like trying to explain a rainbow to a blind person who doesn't speak your native language. No, like trying to explain a rainbow to a blind person, who doesn't speak your native language, and saying: "Eat Skittles, taste the rainbow"! But no, it's like trying to explain a rainbow to a blind person, who doesn't speak your native language, who has no taste buds.

Thank God I have lived a long time, seen a rainbow, ain't blind, have tasted Skittles, have taste buds, and ain't trying to explain a rainbow to myself. I think. It's kinda like that. Maybe.

First, we are all diffrerent. Unique. Second, we aren't all guys. Third, we aren't all of the same experience level, age, basically we all experience all things somewhat differently. When I started racing, I rode a stock 89 KDX 200. I was 230 lbs, had been powerlifting for a few years,working construction, was 22 yrs old, had a really hot girlfriend, drove a black Trans Am without the goofy gold eagle, but big-wide-super-duper-cool RACING STRIPES, LIKE PROPER 1960s MUSCLE CARS HAD! And I had a Mullet. But I digress... I read in a magazine back then that the best handling and fastest dirt bike was a 1990 KX 500. So I traded in my stock KDX for a 500 2 stroke, and loved it! I was super-duper-fast on that 500, when I was on top of it,not it on top of me. Which was about 50/50, but man, could I get back up quick and restart a bike after a crash! I actually thought out if it was possible to put all black plastic on a Kawi, and get gold graphics for it. I think youth and Mullets drain your brain.

Today? I can't even kickstart a KX 500! If I tried to go fast on it, I would do so, but for probably 10 minutes before I was worn completely out. Or before I stalled it, or crashed it, and had to crawl back and try to kickstart it again. I think I probably would be able to kickstart that 500 once. In the parking area, with people looking on. For sure if there was even one hot chick for motivation. Once out of sight of people, I'd probably just push it back rather than try to kick it. My hot girlfriend from back then would probably wear me out too. But I bet she don't look any better than I do today, so maybe not?

Back to rainbows and skittles: One of the first posters on this subject was a chick from somewhere other than the US. I recognized the sexy wording that didn't sound like she was from around these here parts. I bet she is hot too. And probably as tough as I was back then a hundred years ago.

Here's why blind people don't need to explain to sighted people what it's like to eat skittles and taste a rainbow at the same time: It don't really work. And riding a bike at an event, or in a dealer parking lot, or hearing details from others, or reading about a bike, whatever, kinda don't work, especially when you don't have a few years of hardcore riding/racing experience. You sort of don't have enough base of knowledge to "get it". Whatever "it" is.

I have been asking similar questions about some offbeat mods for an older 250 XC. And even with my sage experience, it's kinda tough to translate rainbows to bikes. But I can get some idea at least. But not really a good idea. Truthfully, you should ask, and learn, and think, but you really gotta try it out for yourself. What works for you might suck for someone else. Or be perfect!

Now go out and taste the rainbow!
 
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I have a 200 2005 model n I think it is the best bike I have ever had ! I am 54 b rider 170 lbs and it works great for me.
 
I almost went the 250 route as well this year but later changed my mind. I've ridden the 250 and 300 and do not feel " more tired" riding the 300 at all. I find the 250 feels lighter on the tra but I'm sure that's rotational mass and not actual weight, but would never give up the forgiveness of my 300. My next bike will undoubtably be a 300. Best of both worlds you can race it and IMHO not get tired and make a few mistakes here and there and still recover we're on a 250 I don't think it would work the same for me.

So you going to try the 250 or not Trev? IMO it still lugs down just as well as the 300. I love it heaps!
 
I have a '03 ec250 and a '05 de300. Like both of them. I find that the 300 is so much easier to ride in steep, technical terrain. I am absolutely amazed at how well this bike can pull me up some of this stuff! At a crawl! It has been a life saver for me at 63 years young!
 
Confused: 125 Frame?

Is the 200 in a lighter, smaller 125 frame a la KTM?
I read through this thread and don't see where the 200 weight savings comes from.
Internal engine differences can't possibly account for the claimed 22 lb. difference. I doubt that errors in the "claimed" weights would account for it all, either.

I, too, am madly in love with the 300, but I'm looking at dramatically fewer cc's in my next bike just for the experience.
 
22lb difference is BS, a few lbs tops. Its basically the same bike as the 250/300, different crank and top end, trans, some other engine parts. Cases are internally different but externally the same, have to be to fit the frame. Spring rates may be a range lower, Clay would know that one.
 
Here is a test of the 99EC200 and XC250. It talks about the 200 having a lighter geat set, different primary gear as well.
 

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2005 200 rocks

I bought a used 200 n it is the best enduro bike I have ever had ! I also have a KDX 220 2004 and a xr 250 1996 . Trials tires on the Xr studs on the Kdx ready for winter . But the gasser is nimble quick and plenty powerful for my 175 pound body . I rode some 300 n they are more bike than i would want . I would consider the 250 but the 200 is lots of fun !
 
xc 200

Gentlemen, I would like to announce the addition of a new xc 200 to my paddock. i will be picking the unit up tomorrow morning (Sunday). Thanks all

Happy Hoildays
John
 
Gentlemen, I would like to announce the addition of a new xc 200 to my paddock. i will be picking the unit up tomorrow morning (Sunday). Thanks all

Happy Hoildays
John

Congrats! Let me know next time youre out at Taskers. Ive returned twice since we were there, so I may be able to keep up a little better :D

On a side note, how is your SmartCarb working out?
 
I think you will like the 200!!! I am trying a 300 this year but typically ride a 150 or 200 for the last several years. We shall see. Jay said rev lower and short shift. NOT I ride everything like a 125!! We will see how that works on the 300!! But yea I bet 5-8 pounds lighter tops. If they put that engine in a lightweight frame I would grab it! Husky uses the same frame for their 125 2 stroke and their 250 4 stroke.
 
xc 200

Yes, It sure sounds like a 125. I've only had it running once. I will start the procedure later today. Fletchman along with others are right the frames are the same and it feels much lighter. The carb is not an air striker though. I'm curious if it is a 38mm as the spec sheet claims. There are other differences in the wiring harness, obviously diff. from the e-start. Such as the 200 has Hi and Low
beam headlight but does not turn off?? Also there seems to be a small white 4 pin connector behind the headlight that my trail tech plugs into.strange. There are 3 other unused connectors as well. I will try to post a photo later.

Hey Royalty, Lets go this up coming weekend.. I had to adjust the float bowl
a few times before i got it. Havn't had much time to ride after the adjustments
but boy does it sound great!!! Starts up no choke in 30 degrees.
 
Yes, It sure sounds like a 125. I've only had it running once. I will start the procedure later today. Fletchman along with others are right the frames are the same and it feels much lighter. The carb is not an air striker though. I'm curious if it is a 38mm as the spec sheet claims. There are other differences in the wiring harness, obviously diff. from the e-start. Such as the 200 has Hi and Low
beam headlight but does not turn off?? Also there seems to be a small white 4 pin connector behind the headlight that my trail tech plugs into.strange. There are 3 other unused connectors as well. I will try to post a photo later.

Hey Royalty, Lets go this up coming weekend.. I had to adjust the float bowl
a few times before i got it. Havn't had much time to ride after the adjustments
but boy does it sound great!!! Starts up no choke in 30 degrees.

Ok cool. Ill get out of the thread now.
 
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