New Yamaha
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Not really much earth shattering adding a 6th gear to a YZ250F! Don't get me wrong, it's good that they put forth some effort....but I doubt we'll look back in 10 years and say it was the most significant bike to come along.......unless they were to add some lights and get it past the EPA and still have it RIP!
bkwdc
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I think we all must be starving (jonesing) for something "earth shattering". My initial reaction is/was; I have had some 60 bikes now. 90% or better were dirt bikes; MX, Enduro, Trail bikes. Looking back, I probably had the most "fun" on an IT200. 200s teach you a lot. Don't snap back. And, you can ride the absolute dog stuffing out of and then put it away until the next time.
It was simply "fun" to ride. I think a rear slanted, fuel injected, electric started, down drafted, SSS sprung 250 4t in a basically 125 format would be one heck of a "fun" bike to ride. Earth shattering? What would that be? Mows your grass too? Granted. It probably wouldn't be my race bike of choice when I have a GG 300 available, or desert bike of choice or trials bike of choice for that matter. I need more ponies to haul my 220 pound arse around.
But, I find myself wanting one in the stable along side the others so I can go "shatter some earth".
Kudos to Yamaha for stepping up and offering more Offroad models. My guess is that there is more to come.
It was simply "fun" to ride. I think a rear slanted, fuel injected, electric started, down drafted, SSS sprung 250 4t in a basically 125 format would be one heck of a "fun" bike to ride. Earth shattering? What would that be? Mows your grass too? Granted. It probably wouldn't be my race bike of choice when I have a GG 300 available, or desert bike of choice or trials bike of choice for that matter. I need more ponies to haul my 220 pound arse around.
But, I find myself wanting one in the stable along side the others so I can go "shatter some earth".
Kudos to Yamaha for stepping up and offering more Offroad models. My guess is that there is more to come.
desertgasser300
Banned
Tough crowd........I like it, but I've always liked Yamaha and Kawasaki's. It is nice to have the option. I would still take the 250f motor in a gasgas chassis over this. Its a step in the right direction which is over all good for the sport.
TheLetterJ
New member
So will this be replacing the WR250F? I do dig the specs (although I've never been a 250F kinda guy) and it does seem to address all the things that offroaders have been complaining about. I just wonder if it will be eligible for a green sticker in CA, if so, I can see this selling like hotcakes!
I recall taking a third party online survey a couple years ago from "a major manufacturer" and this ticks all the boxes on their available "wish" list. We all knew that Honda stopped giving a $4!+ a long time ago so Yamaha seemed to be the next likely candidate for a new offroad bike.
I recall taking a third party online survey a couple years ago from "a major manufacturer" and this ticks all the boxes on their available "wish" list. We all knew that Honda stopped giving a $4!+ a long time ago so Yamaha seemed to be the next likely candidate for a new offroad bike.
Jakobi
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WR250F is the same bike + load of weight, and a beautiful headlight.. *barf*
http://www.yamahamotorsports.com/sport/products/modelhome/66/0/home.aspx
http://www.yamahamotorsports.com/sport/products/modelhome/66/0/home.aspx
TheLetterJ
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...so let me get this straight, the WR is 45+ lbs heavier, has lower compression (less power) almost 2" less suspension travel, and costs MORE? I really don't see why they want both in their line up, this does support the idea that the WR will remain green sticker compliant and the YZFX will not. I do find it hard to believe the headlight/ tail light, and plastic skidplate weigh 45lbs, so where is the additional weight?
memphis2857
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All-New YZ250FX: http://youtu.be/VQ01J5muIUg
bkwdc
Gold Level Site Supporter
How'd I know that was comin?
Jake, you do realize it's FI right?
What on earth will you do with hundreds of hours of free time not jetting?
Ohhh. Right. Riding!
Awesome.
http://www.cyclenews.com/431/25182/Racing-Article/Yamaha-Introduces-All-New-WR250F.aspx
Btw, the WR is only 9 pounds heavier(per the Yamaha page) so its the same bike with a headlight, wiring and more restrictive muffler?
http://www.cyclenews.com/431/25182/Racing-Article/Yamaha-Introduces-All-New-WR250F.aspx
Btw, the WR is only 9 pounds heavier(per the Yamaha page) so its the same bike with a headlight, wiring and more restrictive muffler?
TheLetterJ
New member
Well that's more like it! Must be a misprint on the Yamaha site, somebody fat-fingered and put 295lbs for the WRF (which is actually what the nothing-in-common WRR weighs.) I wonder if the suspension travel numbers are also a misprint then? 12.2"F/ 12.5" R on the FX and 10.6" F/R on the WR... in fact, it might be possible that they mixed up ALL the specs of the WRF with the WRR, they show the same compression ratio, ground clearance, and wheelbase too. Either way, both the WRF and the YZFX look like a great step in the right direction.
Yamaha has always been willing to step out, did it back in 91 with the YZ250WR. Same concept here, just make the changes that are needed, nothing else. Glad to see some Japanese company do something for the off road world, good for them. And great timing after Martin and Webb made those 250F's look so good all summer long on the MX track. BTW Jason Raines mostly rides a 2 stroke YZ250 set up for off road so i'm sure he'd like to see that also, at least you know he has let them know about it.
Just contacted Yamaha NZ - WR street legal for our market
Might be the same for you Aussies?
Jacob 'Berg
Member
Too bad this same treatment is not applied to the yz250 2t platform....
The newer 4T motors all have very short stroke and big bore - going bigger on bore doesn't buy as much as you would think - and 300cc kits in CRFs and YZFs can very easily take the motors backwards....
I wouldn't go more than 270cc for these motors - and for me - I would leave it stock.... The husky 310 motor - that gasgas now has rights to make - adds the extra displacement adding stroke (over the 250). This is the "right" way to do it. Add torque that makes the power more usable and a helluva lot funner to ride.
For me - for what I like - the upcoming gasgas 310 motor platform more fits the bill for fast and fun trail riding. It will have more torque and typically has a tighter steering geometry than a yamaha... What's the latest on the new husky engined gasgas 4 strokes?
jeff
