Ohlins TTX suspension

[onegreyghost]

The shock finally made it here. I just bolted it in this week. What a difference between the sachs stuff and onlins. I had the sachs valved and sprung and thought it worked good but there is no comparison between it and the ohlins ttx cartridges and shock. The bike absolutely sticks to the ground no kicking deflecting and corners like its on rails

 

[tnttimber]

What type of setup was involved? Did the ohlins parts need to be valved for your weight and style or are they strait out of the box? Who did you get them from? How much cash did they set you back?

Im thinking about doing this myself so I really appreciate your response.

Thanks

 

[tnttimber]

How bout some Ohlins info? How are they working out for you?

 

[biggstr6]

I dont like hearing how much better the ttx is . I don't have the money for them .

No I really do want to hear about them.Even if I can't afford them.

 

[nambo-trev]

the ohlins ttx is rediculous, it was better than any other suspension ive ridden that has been worked over right out of the box. im getting mine sprung this spring but ill tell you the harder you push your bike and the faster you ride the more the ohlins shines.

 

[AZRickD]

That "the faster you ride it the better it feels" always makes me think that it is on the stiff side, and set up for fast A-racers.

Is this the case with the 2010 Nambo? Will the 2011 Nambo be similar, or softer? I can't believe that Gas Gas hasn't taken notice of all the "this bike is too stiff for my slowness" threads.

Do tell...

 

[BrentMartell]

I don't think that one necessarily equates to other. A great suspension handles the slower speeds and high speeds equally well. For example, my KTM was set up with race tech goodies and worked so much better in the slow speed gnarly stuff it was unreal. However, it also worked incredibly better in the high speed chop in a desert race and handled big hits pretty well. I am currently working on the gg suspension to hopefully get it where my KTM is. The ohlins shock seems to be good, but the zokes forks are needing some work. I am installing heavier springs tonight, already reshimed, and hope that gets me where I need to be. Higher in the stroke, plush, with good bottoming resistence. : )

 

[AZRickD]

"Doesn't necessarily," yes, to take the absolute would be risky, logic-wise.

However, it is a trend that I can't ignore.

 

[nambo-trev]

im sticking with exactly what i said the first time, im a b rider and have had the chance to ride every bike in the line last year and when i say its awesome at high speed of course i mean its great at low speed as well however to me(keep in mind suspension is quite personal) the stock ec300 and the sixdays 250's ive ridden are not on the same page(from what i feel ) at low speed i find all the bikes quite compliant and especially enjoy the 250's "small but powerful feel" but at high speed or riding at a swifter pace in the tight stuff the stock sachs is in my opinion no were near the ttx but it shouldnt be and thats why it costs so much more and also why im glad i paid the extra coin. the looks aside on the nambo i tell my riding buddies(also gasgas riders) i paid for an awesome motor, and awesome suspension components, and a killer frame and thats exactly what i got with my nambo!

 

[trailridernut]

I just commited to a new '10 300 RACE which has the ohlin suspension. I think the Nambo has the better version though...

Can't wait to ride it!

 

[nambo-trev]

i get so stoked to here when a new gasser is coming to someone else because they are all such amazing bikes, ec, sixdays, race or nambo to me its the brand build more so than the line, i can honestly say that when i switch with my buddy now and then with his six days 250 i have a friggin riot on it as well, and im absolutly serious, im still learning to deal with the nambo power on steep technical hill climbs where on the sixdays it feels effortless. i think that every bike in the line has a very unique identity and trust me when i tell you your race is going to be perfect!

 

[twowheels]

I just commited to a new '10 300 RACE which has the ohlin suspension. I think the Nambo has the better version though...

Can't wait to ride it!

Ohlins rear, stiffer set-up on the 48mm Sachs forks as compared to Sachs shock/48mm Sachs forks on the standard 2010s. In 2011, all but the earliest XCs get Ohlins/45mm Zokes, as do the e-start bikes and Six Days scoots. The 250 and 300 Race get Ohlins rear/ 48mm Zoke CC forks. Nambotins get solid gold front and rear.

 

[Fred1956]

That "the faster you ride it the better it feels" always makes me think that it is on the stiff side, and set up for fast A-racers.

Is this the case with the 2010 Nambo? Will the 2011 Nambo be similar, or softer? I can't believe that Gas Gas hasn't taken notice of all the "this bike is too stiff for my slowness" threads.

Do tell...

If GasGas built a bike for each individual then none of us could afford it ! The Nambo is probably not targeted towards the everyday trail rider or the casual racer. And if you fit that description and buy one with that knowledge then it is unfair to GasGas to complain about it. It's components and setup are for the serious racer. OR for the casual trail rider who wants the BLING and the best of the best, but it wouldn't be the best in performance for the casual rider.
Now don't get me wrong, I'd love to have one but heck I can't keep up with my '06 EC250 yet, it'll do way more than I can at this time so I still have a lot of untapped power/potential in what I have. I'm probably not going to pony up for a Nambo yet but boy do they look good!

 

[AZRickD]

i can honestly say that when i switch with my buddy now and then with his six days 250 i have a friggin riot on it as well, and im absolutly serious, im still learning to deal with the nambo power on steep technical hill climbs where on the sixdays it feels effortless.

Well, then. You have experience on the two bikes I would consider.

Can you give us some detail on the motor and suspension behaviors? Is the 250 Six Days Sach/Sachs or Ohlins/Zokes?

Is your Nambo better behaved on hill climbs with the CDI map switched to "Rain"?

 

[AZRickD]

...it is unfair to GasGas to complain about it.

Your statement is off base. I'm trying to make an informed decision. My dealer can't afford to order both a Nambo and a Six Days 250/300, so I have to come at this with a knowledge base.

I can't remember which GG muckety-muck e-mailed me saying that the 2011 Nambo would be softer than the 2010. That would be nice to corroborate.

Having ridden one, if I get a Base model GG I'll have it re-valved and re-spring to make it stiffer. If I get a Six Days, I will re-valve it to make it softer. I don't yet know about the TTX-suspended 2011 Nambo.

 

[nambo-trev]

well firstly ill say that having ridden all the 2010 line i didnt buy the nambo for the "bling" and i can 100% utilize what it has to offer as can all my riding mates, this is not just a racers bike and will be appreciated by riders with an a to a b level riding capablity. true its not for the person that wants to putt around but ive had revalved suspension and have tried makes such as sachs,kyb and showa that were re-valved and i 100% appreciate my ttx.



that being said your question on the motors ill first start with the cdi mapping and yes as of now i keep it in rainy day mode for the gnarly hill climbs as i find it much more compliant and tractable, the stock 2010 ec300 was to me a very good luggable climber but i didnt like the stock suspension much and felt like i was deflecting off of everything. im sure could have been fixed but i only had it for a weekend so didnt fuss with the clickers, but on to the 250 i was talking to my buddy today about this again(maybe you can chime in wes!) and i just really like his 250 because the bike feels alot smaller and more compliant because of the lesser power than in the nambo but that being said the motor is completely different and hard to compare because there is just so much more power in the nambo. im really starting to like it and look forward to grasping the power but i also feel that first impressions of the 2 bikes for myself was that the 250 was just alot more fun the first time i rode it. i love my nambo now but the first ride was a very steep learning curve in sunny day mode in comparison to the 250. if i didnt get such a smokin deal on my nambo(before i knew it was available) i was going to buy the sixdays 250 because i liked it that much.

 

[trailridernut]

Ohlins rear, stiffer set-up on the 48mm Sachs forks as compared to Sachs shock/48mm Sachs forks on the standard 2010s. In 2011, all but the earliest XCs get Ohlins/45mm Zokes, as do the e-start bikes and Six Days scoots. The 250 and 300 Race get Ohlins rear/ 48mm Zoke CC forks. Nambotins get solid gold front and rear.

This is the oddball version... full ohlin front and rear(euro spec), full lighting package... I was lead to believe it's the only one in the US(?).
Sorry... didn't mean to hijack the thread, but the Nambo is the only version(to my knowledge) with Ohlin front/rear. Just trying to learn what if any comparison between the suspension.

 

[add]

The Ohlins package is definitely better then all the different suspension setups I've used. The 09 Sachs was terrible although much better after revised by LTR but still not Ohlins. Since I have tried to tune all my stock suspension to have the same ride as my Ohlins set I decided to just stick with the real deal. I now have three full sets of Ohlins suspension and gave up on trying to respring and revalve stock suspension to accomplish what is already in the Ohlins package.

Haven't had the chance to try the TTX but from my experience I'm sure they're on point.

 

[AZRickD]

Nambo-Trev is the second guy (MattT, the first) to say that the power on the 300 is a bit much to handle.

Having ridden 2005, '06, '07, '08, and 2010 300s (haven't ridden Matt's 2011 Six Days 300) as well as 2006-2011 KTM 250s and 300s, I'm a little puzzled about y'all running the GG 300 in rain mode. I've never had a problem with any of them.

I know that the KTM 300 is a low-end chugger (not quite so much for 2010 and 2011), and the GG300 is more like a big, revvy 250, but, heck, I can't quite get my brain wrapped around it.

 

[nambo-trev]

its only the nambo motor i find a handful, the stock ec300 is completely tame compared to the nambotin in sunny day mode, i cant imagine putting in a higher compression S3 insert to up the power! i found the ec300 very compliant with no learning curve at all IMO. if you get a chance to ride the nambotin you will see what i mean, quite a power upgrade over the stock 300 engine again in my opinion and dont get me wrong im really starting to love the power now and am quite happy i went the route i did!