real weight of 2017 GG 300

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mackmack

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So I'm telling a riding buddy of mine I'm pretty serious about getting a new 2017 GG 300 and he's says "you don't want that pig it weighs 258lbs the new ktm 300 xc is 220lbs."

So does anyone have the real world actual weight of these bikes stock. My old school 2005 gasgas is heavy by current standards but there is no way a 2017 weighs 258 lbs.
 
I thought the 220 weight of KTM XC and the Husky was very impressive but that is without fuel and less standard equipment. No headlight,no taillight,no wiring for turn signals,no wiring for brake lights,no headlight switches. That is probably 10 to 12 pounds for this equipment. Some people don't like this extra stuff but I do because it gives you options. By the time you get gas fluids in KTM/Husky I guess it will probably be 226 to 230.( I didn't read the whole KTM TALK thread.)

I was reading a thread on some Honda CR builds and some people were trying find old HRC sand cast engine components for their CR rebuilds. I thought to myself, well my GG has sand cast cases from the factory. I know the GG bottom end is heavy but that GG engine is durable and it looks cool, so I will take a little weight penalty.

There is probably a hard 22 to 25 pound weight penalty to riding the GG counting the extra equipment. I read the new issue of Dirt Bike Magazine and they listed the GG at 252 with fluids and fuel and the Husky TX 300 at 220 without fuel.(so 226 with fuel?)
 
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10litres is 22lbs so ~15lb is the real difference 'ready to ride'.6.5 to 7kg. (Gg 235dry v 220dry)
Maybe noticeable picking up,
Definitely noticeable when pushing,
Unlikely youll notice it riding,
Are you going to be picking up or pushing a lot....or riding?:D
Your buddy is quoting dry husky v fueled gg.id take the bike with fuel in it....
 
My 2011 GG EC250 weighed 238 with skid plate and bark busters. The same as my neighbor's race-ready 2013 Kawasaki 250F.

I've never had a DNF.
 
I'm going to ask. How are you weighing them? You can not use manufacturers weights. We have a really nice scale we weigh bikes on.
 
My last ktm a 12 model, after a few log crossings the lower frame rails were smashed almost completely flat (with skid plate installed).
Weight savings comes at a price. Just something to think about.
 
hamilton said:
My last ktm a 12 model, after a few log crossings the lower frame rails were smashed almost completely flat (with skid plate installed).
Weight savings comes at a price. Just something to think about.
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That's true. Very common on a lot of off road KTMs. My 13 has been abused in the rocks and woods it only has a few dents in the lower frame rails. And that's with a plastic skid plate.
 
Ok so i can answer this question. My buddy has a 2017 Husky TX300 and I have a 2015 EC 300 which happens to be the same bike. We weighed them on the same set of scales at the exact same time. Both of them were ready to ride and full of fuel. Both bikes had skid plates, radiator braces, and mousses front and rear. The only difference is he runs full bark busters and I run flags. My GG weighed 258 and the Husky weighed 251. That's 7 lbs!!! Also keep in mind my bike still has the headlight, taillight, and a 5lb battery in it, while the Husky has no lights and a lithium battery.

The weight issues is such a silly argument anyway! People get so hung up on advertised weights of KTM and then point out all the magazine articles about the GasGas being 258lbs. Let's compare apples to apples here.


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I gladly accepted the weight, as a trade off for durability.
Such as: replaceable foot peg mounts, cast engine cases etc.
 
I agree with the weight issue. As long as its not 30lbs and in the ballpark you're playing.

2017 husky tx300
243.75
skid guard
hand guards
linkage guard tubliss
enduro engineering rotor guard
 
Rod Overstreet said:
Getting a bit off topic here but I wanted to at least make the offer. I don't know when you plan to buy a new bike but....

These next 2 weeks my travel schedule is full up, but when I return home and get a chance to service up the bike, you are more than welcome to come down and test ride a 300 here on my grass track / woods loop or perhaps we can meet somewhere else since you're only an hour and 20 minutes away from me. I'm willing to bet that once your ride the new bike VS what you had before...your decision will be an easy one to make.
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I'd take you up on that offer. I'm in the process of trying to get my 2005 model running now it's been in storage untouched for 6 years. I'm a gasgas fan I've had this bike 10 years and it's the only bike I said I'd never get rid of, its been that good. Since I got the gasgas I've had about 15 bikes (mostly ktms) and never thought much of them due to the PDS rear suspension but now the XC line looks more appealing.

I'm a big guy 6"2 270 ish and not a racer anymore so the weight of the bike is NOT the end all deciding factor for me i just don't see how they got that Damn ktm so light.
 
mackmack said:
I'd take you up on that offer. I'm in the process of trying to get my 2005 model running now it's been in storage untouched for 6 years. I'm a gasgas fan I've had this bike 10 years and it's the only bike I said I'd never get rid of, its been that good. Since I got the gasgas I've had about 15 bikes (mostly ktms) and never thought much of them due to the PDS rear suspension but now the XC line looks more appealing.



I'm a big guy 6"2 270 ish and not a racer anymore so the weight of the bike is NOT the end all deciding factor for me i just don't see how they got that Damn ktm so light.
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It's not that light! It's smoke and mirrors. The weights the publish are not real world. That weight you read about is a bike that has no oil in it, no fuel, paper thin tubes, and no skid plate. I promise you if you like your 05 a new GasGas will blow you away! I had an 05 and it was a complete turd compared to my 15.


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Far as I'm concerned, the weight of a bike doesn't count unless it's truly ready to ride for it's rider;

For a lot of Eastern riders, that would be;

Full tank of fuel
Real hand guards
Skid plate
Rad guards/braces
decent tubes/ or equiv.
All fluids & lubes
A few pounds of carefully added mud & dirt in un-reachable nooks and crannies
Other???


Those 220lb advertised weights don't include fuel, fork oil, engine/tranny oil, proper tubes, grease, coolant, brake fluid, protection etc.
Not sure how they can use the term 'ready to ride', when the bikes certainly aren't at the advertised weights.

My '12 xc250 es is probably 260-270 truly ready to ride. I've also done the least to this bike compared to previous bikes, only adding hand guards, rad guards and an aluminum skid plate. That's all it's needed.
 
Gassers are like land rovers, 90 percent are still being used, you see a lot of old Yamahas, a few Hondas and the occasional suzuke, not many other old bikes.
 
What I'm saying there is that boat anchor swing arms, sand cast donks, bullet proof gearboxes, uncrackable frames and double bolt decent alloy subframes and 12.1 hardware last really well but weigh a bit more, if the bike didn't carry it so well it'd be an issue. They are harder to lift up and push yes, but not catastrophically. The dude on the 220lb bike is still suffering if he drops it down a hill.
 
3beejay3 said:
Far as I'm concerned, the weight of a bike doesn't count unless it's truly ready to ride for it's rider;

For a lot of Eastern riders, that would be;

Full tank of fuel
Real hand guards
Skid plate
Rad guards/braces
decent tubes/ or equiv.
All fluids & lubes
A few pounds of carefully added mud & dirt in un-reachable nooks and crannies
Other???


Those 220lb advertised weights don't include fuel, fork oil, engine/tranny oil, proper tubes, grease, coolant, brake fluid, protection etc.
Not sure how they can use the term 'ready to ride', when the bikes certainly aren't at the advertised weights.

My '12 xc250 es is probably 260-270 truly ready to ride. I've also done the least to this bike compared to previous bikes, only adding hand guards, rad guards and an aluminum skid plate. That's all it's needed.
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This is so true. We have an accurate scale and I like to debunk people. I really like that we have a 1997 kdx and 2005 kx250 weights and the kdx is lighter. Lol. Bikes are a lot heavier than people think. And ready to ride with hand guards is how we weigh them. I don't ride without fuel, oil, fork oil etc.

Simmo737 said:
What I'm saying there is that boat anchor swing arms, sand cast donks, bullet proof gearboxes, uncrackable frames and double bolt decent alloy subframes and 12.1 hardware last really well but weigh a bit more, if the bike didn't carry it so well it'd be an issue. They are harder to lift up and push yes, but not catastrophically. The dude on the 220lb bike is still suffering if he drops it down a hill.
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I don't want a fragile bike. My gasser is the lightest bike I've had since riding, excluding my sons RM125, that we didn't weight. Honestly the biggest limitation to this bike is the rider. This bike plain works. And I love it. I will need to be getting a new bike soon. However I'm holding out for various reasons. However I am getting rid of all my kawasaki's and I'm buying another EC 250 for my son.
 
memphis2857 said:
Ok so i can answer this question. My buddy has a 2017 Husky TX300 and I have a 2015 EC 300 which happens to be the same bike. We weighed them on the same set of scales at the exact same time. Both of them were ready to ride and full of fuel. Both bikes had skid plates, radiator braces, and mousses front and rear. The only difference is he runs full bark busters and I run flags. My GG weighed 258 and the Husky weighed 251. That's 7 lbs!!! Also keep in mind my bike still has the headlight, taillight, and a 5lb battery in it, while the Husky has no lights and a lithium battery.

The weight issues is such a silly argument anyway! People get so hung up on advertised weights of KTM and then point out all the magazine articles about the GasGas being 258lbs. Let's compare apples to apples here.


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great info right there!

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My 2014 GasGas300xc weighs 258 lbs, full of fuel, maybe some hidden quantities of mud, Kenda Equilibrium read tire w/ TubbLiss front and rear and Enduro Engineering hand guards and aluminum skid plate and a TrailTech computer that doesn't work. Do I think it's heavy, no. Bikes are only heavy when you have too pick them up or push them. Which I try not to do. At times I have had to do just that. I know that A GasGas may be a little heavier than some current bikes, but I don't care. I LOVE what the bike does and doesn't do. It fits my riding style (if you can call it that) and takes me where I want to go. It weights less than my plated 01 XR650R and feels lighter too! lol Forest
 
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