I have read people mentioning the wet mod for the starters so just a couple quick questions. Basically what I am understanding is to plug up the hole in the bottom of the ignition housing, remove the starter and bendix and clean all of the grease off everything , put it back together and dump 4 ounces of 5W fork oil into the bendix assembly. Is that it? Am I missing something or any other tips? Also does this oil ever need to be changed?
Wet mod for 2018 starter
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Gasser Nate
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That is it mate. You can add a small vacuum fitting up the top so it can breathe as well. Beta do not but I thought it was a good idea too on mine. No issues at all what so ever with the electric start. It spins the quickest out of all my mates and always engages. I would just change it when you do a top end.
Thanks. So by doing this there is no worry about getting oil onto the stator?
Gasser Nate
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The stator will be covered in oil, I have used a synthetic gearbox oil in mine and never had an issue with this Gassy or about three others I have done it to.
Ok thanks for the help. One more thing, is 4 ounces the right amount? I see for KTM it was 4 but then people started doing 2 instead. And for the vacuum is it necessary, does it need to be drilled and tapped, and does it go on the ignition housing?
Gasser Nate
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I am in metric land. I have no clue what an ounce is! 
I think I run about 75 millilitres. Yes I drilled and tapped the stator cover. Somewhere up top and away from wiring/accidental damage will be fine.
I think I run about 75 millilitres. Yes I drilled and tapped the stator cover. Somewhere up top and away from wiring/accidental damage will be fine.
Gasser Nate
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Pulled my bendix cover the other day for the first time to see how it is going after a month of sitting around, still covered in oil and no wear to the bendix cover at all.
Hi.
The dealer in Brazil made this video:
https://m.facebook.com/1980110065451696/posts/2165096433619724?s=100003496416829&v=e&sfns=mo
Use ATF oil!
He tried first with 50ml and not satisfy results.
After he was adding 10ml, more 10ml until 150ml max.
The best results obtain with 120ml.
He talks about closing a breather on the magnet cover.
Do they all agree?
I wish somebody would make a video like that in English. Looks like a good video. The KTM wet mod originally called for 120 ml but then after many people did it they found that only 60-75 ml was needed. Is our setup different to where it is reccomended to go back to 120 ml again? Some are doing 60 ml with no Vent and having success. I was going to try this. Can someone put a picture or link of the vent fitting to use? I am still confused on that part and can?t find what I need at the store. Thanks
fred99999au
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I used an M6 push on air fitting with some suitable tube into the airbox. Probably should put a sintered filter on it at some point.
Gasser Nate
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The amount of oil is not a massive concern, as long as it is enough to get splashed around by the rotor you will be sweet. I used a 5mm vacuum fitting for mine and ran it up high and back down in a loop. No need for a sintered filter unless you have one lying around. Beta runs no vent in their starters but they only run around 25mls as the starter is at the bottom.
Does the vacuum tube go throught the wiring grommet and do you use some sort of fixing to pass the tube through into the ignition mechanism? Like on the Slavens racing ktm wet mod where he uses a brass fixing?
I want to try this as I'm having issues again with my starter on my 19 Ec250. I had things working okay but a big drop doing hard enduro cracked the antigrativity batter I had attached near the air filter and blew the motor. No looking to go back to one battery
I want to try this as I'm having issues again with my starter on my 19 Ec250. I had things working okay but a big drop doing hard enduro cracked the antigrativity batter I had attached near the air filter and blew the motor. No looking to go back to one battery
Did the wet mod, after all other needed mods, except unnecessary 24V. Added 70ml of oil, thats less than 1/10qt. Breather fitted on top.
Not sure about the exact needed quantity of oil, but someone should check in rieju '22 manual for volume.
I think that if ring gear bottom teeth are covered in oil, it will satisfyingly transfer it towards the top.
Give a bike few dry kicks when cold, to prelube gears.
Using regular ATF dexron III.
And one note..it is not electric starter wet mod, it is starter bottom transfer gear mechanism wet mod. Even upper transfer parts are not very much affected with it, except maybe if using larger quantity of oil..like before mentioned 120-150ml.
Not sure about the exact needed quantity of oil, but someone should check in rieju '22 manual for volume.
I think that if ring gear bottom teeth are covered in oil, it will satisfyingly transfer it towards the top.
Give a bike few dry kicks when cold, to prelube gears.
Using regular ATF dexron III.
And one note..it is not electric starter wet mod, it is starter bottom transfer gear mechanism wet mod. Even upper transfer parts are not very much affected with it, except maybe if using larger quantity of oil..like before mentioned 120-150ml.
