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chilliwackwestie

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Hello new member here.
I live in B.C. Canada, Vancouver area.
I don't own a gasser yet but things are in the works.
Here is my question
I'm 5'10" 175 lbs I ride tight single track, logging roads and such. I plan on entering a few local off road races in my area (the monkey wrench and maybe the 24 hour in hope). Most riding will be weekend warrior type bush riding. I currently ride a dinosaur 1980 Yamaha It 175.
I am looking for opinions on which gasser I should consider between the2011 xc300 or 250. From what I have read the xc's have better suspension components. The 300 has a more usable bottom to mid range in comparison to the 250. What is the difference between the ec, xc, ec sixdays, and any other models. Engine difference, chassis, suspension ?
I am looking for a bike that will suit what I ride last me a wile and be cheap to maintain.
Any input would help my decision
Cheers
Glen
 
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Chilliwackwestie, no offence, this will be interesting. To most of the world, the GG 250 and 300 and it's various forms are all the same bike, but the folks here can put together 30 page thread listing the differences and why some versions are better than others.

I live just an hour south of you and have raced the PN series races at the locations you listed. Any GasGas will do great there, but the GG300 is probably the best all around woods bike made, that being said, there are many times I have preferred the 250 over the 300.
 
I have two riding buddies that live just north of you (Squamish) and they both have the 300 and love them.
I bought the 300 this year and with the limited seat time I have had, I'm really starting to like it. :D
Sorry I can't really compare the 2 but I don't think you would be disappointed with the 300.
 
Well the EC is the XC so they are the same. I have the 2010 EC 300 and it's an awesome do it all bike IMHO. If i had to do it again I would still get a GasGas either the 300 SixDay or the a 200 race. From my understanding they all share the same chasis with the sixday and race having better brakes and different suspension set ups/brands. Engines are the same for each with the exception of the Nambotin having different head options. There are other small differences like bars, rear brake cooler, braces, etc but all the Gasgas bikes are built off the same basic platform and all are really great well put together bikes. Pick one and you be a happer rider.
 
After my Sachs/Sachs combo on my 10 300 broke in, I am extremely happy. I am 5'10 180lbs as well.

It took 25 hours for the suspension to loosen up. I ride both moto and woods with the bike.
 
Look hard at a 250. I know allot of guys like the 300 but for me the 250 is a way better option, It can be luged when thing get slimy but can be ridden hard when there is traction without having to worry about when those power valves open, ether way the GG is by far the most fun you can have without getting arrested.
 
Your 175#, go with the 250. Ive owned both and like both for different reasons but if I were 175# it would be no question that the 250 is the bike I would be on. Im 250# A rider and am currently riding a 2010 250 six day model. The factory jetting is ridiculous, the 250 makes lots of power when you get it right.
 
The 250 300 debate will have to be made by the seat of my pants, with a test ride. I am curious about the differences in models, sachs vs the zokes, ohlns vs sachs. Which is best setup for the woods out of the box. Price will be a concern. The local dealer has a few 2010 models in stock im sure they will be keen on selling a deal might be had. So I guess 2010 vs 2011 models as well.
Keep up on the opinions, there all helping.
Cheers
Glen
 
If you are going to be doing long events or rides the 250 will be easier to handle when your tired. And it should tire you out less in the first place. That 300 can be a hand full when you grab a fist full by mistake. A good buddy of mine used to have a camel back with a 90 degree spout on the end of the hose. Bad things happen when it hooks the throtle cable on a 300 in the woods. :eek:
 
I just rode a 2010 300 for a while today on a "real" trail and not around the neighborhood (like the last couple of weeks) and I was really impressed by the suspension for being box stock. It's not quite broken in but it worked fine for my weight! I took the bike through a downed tree section and the forks felt pretty darn good hitting those and hitting roots on the trail...I really did not feel any deflection and the rear seem to roll over these obstacles nicely without kicking. I then pounded the whoops for a little and the rear worked a little better than my older bike with a new Ohlins shock on it and the forks were massively better than the old WPs. I would be fine riding this suspension in rocks, woods, and Colorado whoops without any work! FWIW, 240 lbs + gear, probably Vet B rider now but I used to be able to ride! The others covered the motor so I thought I would give you my thoughts on how the 2010 suspension works!

Eric
 
I wont be doing many long events, my experience riding is sportsman at best. I'm looking for a bike that will lug nicely through the single track scream up the logging roads and be a hoot on the open sand river rides. As I want to buy a bike I will be happy with as my skills improve and keep for 5 or 10 years I will want something that will last with regular maintenance and cheap (in comparison to a thumper) to rebuild.
GasGas seems to be the best value for money here in Canada if you are looking for a 2 stroke woods bike.
If the 300 is too peppy is is possible to calm it down until I get the hang of it ? Then liven it up as my skills progress.
I am sure any GG model will be a vast improvment on my on or off Yamaha IT175.
What do you think ?
 
chilliwackwestie said:
I wont be doing many long events, my experience riding is sportsman at best. I'm looking for a bike that will lug nicely through the single track scream up the logging roads and be a hoot on the open sand river rides. As I want to buy a bike I will be happy with as my skills improve and keep for 5 or 10 years I will want something that will last with regular maintenance and cheap (in comparison to a thumper) to rebuild.
GasGas seems to be the best value for money here in Canada if you are looking for a 2 stroke woods bike.
If the 300 is too peppy is is possible to calm it down until I get the hang of it ? Then liven it up as my skills progress.
I am sure any GG model will be a vast improvment on my on or off Yamaha IT175.
What do you think ?
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I have ridden both the 2011 250 and 300, in my opinion the 250 is peppier than the 300, the 300 is more suited for woods riding, i bought the 300
 
Running a 2010 EC300 for a year now, best bike ever!
Moved on from an XR 250 to a FSE 450 (early model) both of which I killed.

Mods - trusty PV cover - really lugs when needed.
Vent carb filter kit. Just waiting for Leo Vince end can.

Deffo a keeper

Biff
 
250s FEEL quicker as they come on the pipe because they have a bit less off the bottom, and also rev a little faster. The overall power curve of the 300 is more linear. The 300 makes more power off the bottom, this is the difference, and is an advantage to some and a liability to others.

From the OPs discription of intended use, I'd choose the 300.
 
jetting a 300 a bit rich,tames them down a bunch. i've been running my new bike on the rain mode most of the time this spring. but snow,ice, and mud-i guess thats why they put a dual map switch on the bike?
 
GMP said:
250s FEEL quicker as they come on the pipe because they have a bit less off the bottom, and also rev a little faster. The overall power curve of the 300 is more linear. The 300 makes more power off the bottom, this is the difference, and is an advantage to some and a liability to others.

From the OPs discription of intended use, I'd choose the 300.
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Thanks for coming to the same conclusion,We gasser riders are a hair splitting bunch.
Rode my EC300 through some tight trees,rocks,singletrack heaven and sand this weekend.Perfect bike!
 
Your also in CO and I assume at altitude, which makes the 300 more attractive. For enduros in the tight south NJ pines at sea level, I like the 250s for sure. In the rocks and steep trails up north by my house, either works.
 
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