2013 300XC Sub Frame

[john r b]

Holy smokes fella's I have the parts list for the upgrade. 2 types e-start and
non. I'm gonna think long and hard before pressing play.

 

[GMP]

They have two different alloy subframes? Really? Same seat? What a CF.

 

[john r b]

I just have the parts list no photos. I will list asap.

 

[Rider_wv]

I can get together with my bud and his '13 300E and see how different the side panels are compared to my 12 and see what it will take to mod the '12 parts.

It would be nice if GG at least offered the Alluminum sub & associated parts to current 12-13 owners at cost, or at least cost plus 10%.

I might look into blue printing my sub and fabbing up my own.

 

[GMP]

There is no doubt in my mind I could make this work if I had to, but I'm not going there anymore.

How do the '13 seats feel? Stable, or do they roll and flex when you shift weight to the side? A fundemental flaw in the '12 bodywork/subframe is that there is no side support for the thin light seat, just in the center, and it acts as a pivot point. Conventional seat designs contact the subframe rails on the edges of the base.

It also likely the reason why they get loose and fall off. I never rode a '13 to compare but I addressed this on two '12s and it absolutely fixes the problem.

 

[Rider_wv]

'13 seats feel solid and stable to me. The integrated batt box also stiffens the seat pan, which helps.

 

[GLantern]

Keeping an eye on this thread, I'm a bit disappointed to hear that the subframe is such a big failure point. I'm interested to see what people are going to do with their 12s to correct the problem as I have no choice but to keep this bike I can't go selling it for another.

 

[GMP]

Don't loop the bike. The alloy frame kit is a good option to.


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[GLantern]

Don't loop the bike. The alloy frame kit is a good option to.


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Eventually gravity and stupidity will prevail though.

Did anyone get the cost to replace the parts with the plastic subframe again? Just curious on the price.

 

[Coop]

Eventually gravity and stupidity will prevail though.

Then I think swapping to the alloy subframe is your only option unless you have excellent design and fabricating skills to build your own .

 

[GLantern]

It does sound like the best bet, what was the total cost to convert a 12? 500 to 600 US?

Edit: Found it

Thats just the '13 change. '12 seat sat on the plastic batt box, and was like sitting on a pool toy the way it flexed and rolled. Upgrading '12 to alloy is more $$ or custom work as the seat will not work. Side panels also mount different. So as I see it now, you need subframe, plastic covers. hardware, seat, side panels as a minimum. Probably $550 - $600 when your done, for a '12. Sucks.

 

[john r b]

Eventually gravity and stupidity will prevail though.

Did anyone get the cost to replace the parts with the plastic subframe again? Just curious on the price.

About 240euro's for kickers slightly more for e-starts..

 

[GMP]

Yes, there is a complete kit for 240 Euros ($345 including shipping from Spain) that includes everything you need including new '13 seat and side panels. Very reasonable actually, some alloy subframes on other bikes alone are over $500, priced a Husky part once for $600.

 

[GLantern]

Yes, there is a complete kit for 240 Euros ($345 including shipping from Spain) that includes everything you need including new '13 seat and side panels. Very reasonable actually, some alloy subframes on other bikes alone are over $500, priced a Husky part once for $600.

That is really not that bad, good to know there is a good bit of kit for when I eventually damage mine.

Who was it available through?

 

[wence]

That sounds more like it. Hopefully I don't need it though.
Cheers Mark

 

[nambo-trev]

That doesn't sound over priced at all, definitely would make me feel a lot better if I was a current 12 or 13 owner!!

 

[gasgasman]

Cheaper than blowing a top end.

 

[GMP]

I still think its sad that we have to go to a Spanish dealer for this and its not available through our chain for the same price. Global economy touches all I guess. Anyway, if OEM bothers you this is it.

 

[Moto7man]

Yes, there is a complete kit for 240 Euros ($345 including shipping from Spain) that includes everything you need including new '13 seat and side panels.

That seems like an extremely reasonable price.

 

[modette]

Well this is why I got a multipurpose welder for Christmas. To solve my own problems like this on motorcycles. I was thinking already to do a Chrome Moly subframe for the GasGas. It would not be as hard as some think...then again I tend to have time on my hands. (Yeah this adds some weight but I'm a trail rider not a racer so a little weight is not a huge deal).

My XR650R also has a weak aluminum subframe, I cracked one before an even and had to pay $60 for a used one off Ebay and then $60 for next day shipping...LOL This is why I wanted a welder.