GG Clutch basket photos

when i drilled holes (18 total holes in my hub now) it fixed sticky plates/kick start in gear issues. i never had a squawky clutch - neither of my baskets have webbing.... the holes just let more fluid pass to keep plates stiction at a minimum. i think the basket is possibly what causes squawking... does anyone have squawky clutch and no web basket? my clutch has never squawked with amsoil 0w-40 or maxima xtl or rotella t for that matter. i like the amsoil because it's got the lowest friction coefficient.
 
Looked at a KTM clutch basket and inner hub today. the hub had larger and more holes than my gasser. the fins were machined all the way to the bottom as on the 125 basket pictured.

I have decided to drill the existing holes to make them larger, and to machine the fins as on the pictured assembly. If you look at a picture of a Barnett clutch basket it has the fins opened all the way to the bottom, and additional holes on the solid fins.

PLEASE, someone chime in if you think this is the wrong direction.

p.s. The dealer said my clutch fibers were fine and that the steels were good too. Although, two of the steels had some discoloration but were others wise straight.
 
Well, I guess I'd better jump on the bandwagon and inspect this situation tomorrow. This is a decade old clutch that's never shown any problems, except these which I can fix with a drill and some beer.
She'll be running tomorrow night. Why not use the mighty power of knowledge gained here ?

If I find too few holes, I'll probably match the hole size and evenly distribute the new ones.

How about a hole in the webbing instead of a webectomy?
If Stainless got good results without touching the webbing, I'll go that conservative route.

I can always take more off/out if it isn't enough.

-dean
I'd rather cut a board too long than too short
 
motogroove said:
How about a hole in the webbing instead of a webectomy?
If Stainless got good results without touching the webbing, I'll go that conservative route.
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didn't need to cut webbing, because mine has almost none. looks like the one on the left.

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i only drilled holes to help the stiction issue, and try to get more progressive engagement. i can kick bike in any gear now. and the clutch is less jerky. keep in mind my hub only had 6 holes. i added 12 more just like the pic - i think i used 2mm bit - can't remember - it's whatever size the other ones were. i did not enlarge any - just added more.
 
I did think of drilling holes in the webbing angled in the direction the basket turns instead of a webectomy.

Even though i have the 18 drilled holes already, they are very small compared to the KTM basket that i looked at for comparison. And there are less of them.
 
Prompted by this thread, I opened her back up this morning and found I don't have the dreaded webbing, but I have zero holes.

The batteries for the camera are charging while I pull this thing off to drill it. Photos to come.

Thanks for the heads up on this one. :cool:

-dean
2001 xc300
 
I have this Taiwanese Campbel Hausfield impact gun that would make a better paperwieght. It can't even pop off my clutch basket or a lug nut.
Often, air tools respond well to a cleaning and oil, but this thing was always junk. I'm not sure why I didn't throw it off a cliff years ago.

Maybe I'll pick up a new impact wrench. Life's too short to own crappy tools.

I could see making a special basket holder tool to fasten to 4 clutch spring posts, but that seems a little risky. The posts aren't designed for forces in that direction, methinx.

Photo attached - 2001 xc300 basket with zero holes.
 

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if you're gonna get a decent impact - try the ingersoll rand 231c. indestructible.

i'm betting some holes will fix that problem. i think 2mm(3mm?) - but i can't be sure of that - maybe someone can chime in with size.. the size isn't crucial i would think, just don't go obnoxiously large.
 
Before and after - 2001 xc300
zero holes, 18 holes at 3/32 inch
I have a good feeling about this hot rod mod.:cool:
 

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I now have 32 holes in the inner hub, all of which are about 50% larger than the originals. I also drilled very large holes in the webbing of the basket. I used a drill press to do all of the work, it was very easy. Could have done it in a vise with a drill i'm sure. The hardest part was getting the nut that holds it all together lose. First try with a weak impact was unsuccessful, then used an electric impact of a friends and that worked well. I didn't even know they made such a thing. Ill report back on the results, but i am hopeful.

t
2011 EC 300.
 
when you're in there, check: steels are flat, measure overall stack height, maybe you have a thick plate in there somewhere? basket or hub grooved? slave bled? what fluid you running?
 
Just to have all the info in the same place:

The 2012 GG clutch cover is designed to improve oil flow to the clutch hub/centre and should solve this, along with a different coating on the basket. This is interchangeable with earlier models as a squeal-fix
 
My clutch does not squall anymore but, it does drag a bit which makes the bike hard to start in gear. Would changing the stack height help that?
 
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