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stack height would make drag less. but if you go too far it will slip. less stack height = less drag. make sure your slave is bled well.
GG Clutch basket photos
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motogroove
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Yes, I'll report here before stacking my deck.
My slave should be well bled, but I did notice a good tip in a recent thread to feather the clutch a little while doing the bleeding (from bottom up with syringe). I did not feather the clutch, so I guess I was just forcing fluid past the (brand new) seals I wish would take any and all forces.
Anyway, yeah...
there are people here with trained eyes.
And then I'm here to represent the other end of the spectrum.
AA riders wil not get GG over the top.
I'm a solid mid-pack C rider.
Mostly becuase they don't have D riders.
But I have AA fun when I get the chance to ride.
I really love my Gas Gas.
<edit>P.S. These true confessions are the result of too many hours at the pub.
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rgranger
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My rekluse started slipping very badly this past weekend. even 1st gear starts the think was slipping an squawking like crazy. I am going to bob the webbing off of the clutch basket this week. Not sure if I should take the entire bit out or just drill a decent sized hole? it is in a 300, so I am worried about the fingers failing without the extra support. but riding it is very difficult when you don't know when it is going to grab or slip.
Rob
Rob
stainlesscycle
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can't you cure rekluse slip by adjusting gap? or was it slipping at high rpm's?
rgranger
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They say that the PP adjustment is for fine tuning, I am pretty much out of that neighborhood. I have the PP set where they say, 1 turn +3. There must be something fundamentally different in the dynamics, the KTM 300 has the same setup, never an issue in over 2 years and it has been run hard. the GasGas has maybe 40 hours on it be it slipped and squawked since day one withe the Core EXP.
reiterrider
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Are there two different basket designs for the 300?
I have a 2011 300 and I'm having issues getting the correct basket.
On the following image you can see bottom right stock basket.
Bottom left aftermarket basket from a 2002 300
And top is the new current Barnett basket.
NOTE:
Part # for Barnett is correct
Hole for pinion gear is about 6mm too big
Tab for rubber damper is also the wrong shape and larger than the stock tab.
Spoke with Barnett today and they said that my basket is different than their stock GasGas basket?
They said to go ahead and send the basket back.
Are there two basket designs?
If so, are there two pinions designs, since the diameter of the hole on the Barnett (on the right) is clearly larger?
In this last picture you can see the gap between the pinon gear and the basket.
I have a 2011 300 and I'm having issues getting the correct basket.
On the following image you can see bottom right stock basket.
Bottom left aftermarket basket from a 2002 300
And top is the new current Barnett basket.
NOTE:
Part # for Barnett is correct
Hole for pinion gear is about 6mm too big
Tab for rubber damper is also the wrong shape and larger than the stock tab.
Spoke with Barnett today and they said that my basket is different than their stock GasGas basket?
They said to go ahead and send the basket back.
Are there two basket designs?
If so, are there two pinions designs, since the diameter of the hole on the Barnett (on the right) is clearly larger?
In this last picture you can see the gap between the pinon gear and the basket.
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reiterrider
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Two baskets
Paul's post seems to confirm that there are two baskets.
Barnett only shows one part # on their site and I'm not getting any additional info from Barnett other than return the basket for a refund vis a vie Gofasters.
Unfortunately for you Roscoe, you won't know what the shape of the tabs are until you take off the pinon gear.
Paul's post seems to confirm that there are two baskets.
Barnett only shows one part # on their site and I'm not getting any additional info from Barnett other than return the basket for a refund vis a vie Gofasters.
Unfortunately for you Roscoe, you won't know what the shape of the tabs are until you take off the pinon gear.
rgranger
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Mine (2011 EC 300) looks like yours on the left. I cut some of the webbing between the fingers down, every other one. I was drilling them to allow more oil but the bit dug in and snapped one, so I dremeled every other one off. I did that, added the o-rings on the back of the inner hub and the squawk seems to have lessened. I have not been able to ride it hard due to the recovering from rotator cuff and a bent wrist, but it is not nearly as noisy as before!
2011 ec 300 clutch basket
I'm new to this forum but am dealing with the exact same issues. Just picked up my new 2011 ec 300 sixdays and after riding maybe a total of 100 miles out at Tahuya, I decided the clutch squeal and slipping had to be addressed. Barnetts web site listed a basket that would fit 97-newer 200/250/300 2 strokes. After ordering it, grinding the rivets off my stocker, then realizing it does not fit. I sent barnett pics and an email explaining the issue. They have changed their web site and now the only 2 stroke they have baskets for are the 125's. They said they are going to send me a new OEM basket since mine has been compromised. Of course that does not solve the clutch squeal and slipping problem. Contacted Rekluse and they are testing a couple of prototypes and told me it might be available in approximately 6 weeks. They are also sending me some fasteners so I can drill and tap my stocker to put it back together.
I'm new to this forum but am dealing with the exact same issues. Just picked up my new 2011 ec 300 sixdays and after riding maybe a total of 100 miles out at Tahuya, I decided the clutch squeal and slipping had to be addressed. Barnetts web site listed a basket that would fit 97-newer 200/250/300 2 strokes. After ordering it, grinding the rivets off my stocker, then realizing it does not fit. I sent barnett pics and an email explaining the issue. They have changed their web site and now the only 2 stroke they have baskets for are the 125's. They said they are going to send me a new OEM basket since mine has been compromised. Of course that does not solve the clutch squeal and slipping problem. Contacted Rekluse and they are testing a couple of prototypes and told me it might be available in approximately 6 weeks. They are also sending me some fasteners so I can drill and tap my stocker to put it back together.
REVERUP
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Yep Reiterrider is one of the Rekluse basket testers and has one in his bike. Thats top secret though.
The Barnett does fit other baskets besides the 125. Unfortunately it just depends on the luck of the draw. And from what I'm hearing won't work with a 2011 250 or 300 OEM basket. If Barnett would have supplied the rubber dampers with their unit this would probably be a non issue. The Barnett basket is a sweet unit but this issue has me also with a non usable basket. kdxtreme has a Barrnet in his 2008 300 now installed by peb. He was one of the guys I know who changed his 300's basket to a Barnett and had the right OEM basket in his bike, so it was a non issue.
Mark of Gofasters is headed to Spain and is looking into getting the proper rubber dampers for the Barnett. Unfortunately that will add some more cost to make the Barnett work.
I ended up buying another OEM basket cause I cant afford to wait and my original was toast. Luckily I ended up with the best stocker available like the pics earlier in this thread where the bridges are up on the fingers away from the bottom so the first few plates get oil better. Got to tel ya it broke the bank. If ya know anyone who wants a brand new Barnett in the box never installed for a steal let me know, probably end up on the parts thread. After the stocker purchase I need the dough.
Roscoe
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I got a stock OEM replacement basket (which was suppose to be like the one you got but ended up being same dog dish looking thing I already have) and it came as a matched set with the primary gear. Did you change out the primary gear or just install the basket? I'm about to start drilling holes in it and see what happens. I got a new bike and I want to ride it! Any feed back on how the classifed basket is working in the ReiteRooter guys bike? (now that I read it, I 'm pretty sure that is not the right name)
Rob
Rob
reiterrider
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rekluse
So far its been great, I'm running the Rekluse manual clutch and basket.
5 hours of riding and its performing perfectly!
So far its been great, I'm running the Rekluse manual clutch and basket.
5 hours of riding and its performing perfectly!
is there anything I can do wrong when changing clutch plates that can cause the squealing??
My friends 2010 EC 300 Racing has never squealed before. Now after 2 years we change the clutch, and now it makes those noises!! We didn't even remove the basket just the kork and steel plates.
My friends 2010 EC 300 Racing has never squealed before. Now after 2 years we change the clutch, and now it makes those noises!! We didn't even remove the basket just the kork and steel plates.
You have to soak the friction plates in oil for an hour or two before you install them. Other than that, make sure you end up with the clearance in spec.
Not soaking them can cause them to immediately glaze and then once glazed they can slip, squeal or who knows what else. If they are glazed you can remove the shiny glaze with a cross cut file being careful to only de-glaze them and not remove clutch material.
As far as what caused the squealing, there is long threads about this problem and some seem to be more prone to it than others. Not soaking the frictions first certainly didn't help matters.
