Sachs Shock

hamer174

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looking at getting a 2011 EC 300, I have heard good and bad things about the Sachs shock. Just kinda wonder what the general thoughts are on it. Figured this was the best forum to ask, I know the Ohlins is better but thats probably not an option money wise.
 
looking at getting a 2011 EC 300, I have heard good and bad things about the Sachs shock. Just kinda wonder what the general thoughts are on it. Figured this was the best forum to ask, I know the Ohlins is better but thats probably not an option money wise.

The general consensus is that the shock is too stiff. It is really easy to fix. I know that Enduro Engineering can fix it and I hear grat things about LTR's work on this shock too.
 
Good build quality and similar design to ohlins, bad valving from the factory, revalve and it's good to go. It had a reputation for losing damping in earlier models due to the piston band energizer o ring being inadequate, this is no longer the case. If your elite/pro and are worried about heat, you can opt for a bladder conversion but it probably doesn't need it in reality.
 
Mine has been as good as an Ohlins for over 200 hrs. Valved correctly and serviced its fine. Les at LTR knows these very well from doing Huskys for years as well as GGs. I hear he's feeling good and starting up the shop again too.
 
It's a good shock, but as said it needs to be revalved...at 190lbs I had to respring front and rear as well.
It took a few trys to get the shock to work how I wanted but finally got it figured out.
If you can't do it yourself send the suspension out...it's the best money you'll ever spend on your bike.

The GG is a whole different bike (better) with properly working suspension.
 
thanks for all the info, seems like the general consensus is revalve it and it should be no problems. Now if i can just just sale this KTM I have and get away from the "Evil Orange Empire"
 
In general, why would anyone think that stock valving, which was speced for a virtual average rider of 170lbs in average conditions, should be good for them and when its not cry foul on the shock? This is nuts, valving is an adjustment just like jetting. If its not addressed, you never completed your bike setup.
 
In general, why would anyone think that stock valving, which was speced for a virtual average rider of 170lbs in average conditions, should be good for them and when its not cry foul on the shock? This is nuts, valving is an adjustment just like jetting. If its not addressed, you never completed your bike setup

GMP I agree 100% the reason I was asking cause a few people have told me no matter what revalving is done you the Sachs should be called Sucks, and is only good for the trash.
 
Total BS and I'd call them on it. Think Husky would use a junk shock for over ten years? If I had the choice between a Sachs custom valved for me, and a generic Ohlins, I'd take the Sachs any day.
 
Total BS and I'd call them on it. Think Husky would use a junk shock for over ten years? If I had the choice between a Sachs custom valved for me, and a generic Ohlins, I'd take the Sachs any day.

I've heard a lot of people say Huskys are total sucks and only good for the trash.. I've also heard people bag out the Sachs forks more so than the shock.. I also know heaps of people who are happy with them, or have made them work well..
 
I've heard a lot of people say Huskys are total sucks and only good for the trash.. I've also heard people bag out the Sachs forks more so than the shock.. I also know heaps of people who are happy with them, or have made them work well..

If you bought a car and the previous owner left the seat all the way forward, would you fix the problem, or would you have a tantrum, sell the car and belittle the brand because it didn't 'work' for you.
GMP has it completely correct, expecting something that has such a narrow band of performance to be set up for your riding style (and weight) is ridiculous.
Ignorance is bliss they say.
 
If you bought a car and the previous owner left the seat all the way forward, would you fix the problem, or would you have a tantrum, sell the car and belittle the brand because it didn't 'work' for you.
GMP has it completely correct, expecting something that has such a narrow band of performance to be set up for your riding style (and weight) is ridiculous.
Ignorance is bliss they say.
quite true, the sachs in standard form i found to be great for off-road (read flat out open stuff) but really sucked for the tight slow rocky stuff that i want to ride. After a twowheels revalve it is now great ... and once the fork is "fixed" the shock rears its head as the next weak link
 
quite true, the sachs in standard form i found to be great for off-road (read flat out open stuff) but really sucked for the tight slow rocky stuff that i want to ride. After a twowheels revalve it is now great ... and once the fork is "fixed" the shock rears its head as the next weak link

+1

In the 2011 shock has a straight stack and can be made to work over more varied terrain with a 2 stage stack, as can the fork! With some mid valve care

Stock valving will almost always need to be changed for the rider/ conditions, no matter what brand of bike/suspension it's just that Sachs seem to not get even close out of he box compared to other gear, Showa on an rmz250 is nicer for trail riding straight out of the box, and it's an mxer......just wind out the clickers.

When Sachs is seen to, it's as good as anything in its class.

That means the forks are always going to be open chamber CLASS and spook you on fast, rough downhills like wp, marz, and kyb open chamber gear because the oc design finds its limitation there, not the brand. I've had it with oc forks.

The shock is as good as anything I've ridden now I have it valved the way I like it. Today I put back the check valve and apart from it starting to groan ( I'm going to buy a terry hay rsv to replace it) i loved the feel, the whole design of the shock and the results you get are absolutely great, as you would expect from a gas pressurized res. shock. It's not a limited design like the forks.

de carbon piston or bladder?.... Meh it's so close as to purely be a convenience with the bladder re servicing.

Seeing the new wp twin chamber design, I reckon you will not see oc forks on anything serious as of 2014, coatings and seals areas e point where stiction is no longer an issue, and ktm reckon there is no longer a cost difference.

All IMHO.
 
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