No steering head lock found. Safe to say this is an XC300?
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No steering head lock found. Safe to say this is an XC300?
Jim Cook
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I believe so.
And, from the Vin number, my best guess is that it was one of the earlier 2002 XC300 that was made for the US. As such, it should have come with the smaller ignition.
I missed whether you specified which ignition it has (if it still has the original ignition set-up).
It's easy to tell at a glance, as the wires come out of the case in the front of the flywheel with the smaller ignition, and the wires come out to the rear with the larger ignition.
One of the neat things about the Gassers is that they are "infinitely rebuildable". It is fairly easy and relatively inexpensive to keep them in great working shape. I've got a very good friend riding the enduros in Washington on his 2004 ECO300. He rides hard, with a big grin on his face.
Jim Cook
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I just saw this. Thank you Rick, and ya'll are welcome to whatever help I can give. I sure don't know it all, but I'll share what I think I know.
I benefit from a lot of good information on here, too. So I want to give back what I can.
Good Riding!
Jim
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Jim Cook
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A 2000 year model EC300 is my best guess, without looking at the bike.
Is the airbox "pre-side door" (side door for the airbox started with 2001 year model), but the bike has the 2000 and later tank and seat?
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Jim Cook
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compmoto
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just saw this ...
do the trials models use the same basic system ?
I have a client's TXT280 Pro that she wants to sell... it was sold to her as a 2009 model
The VIN is : VTRGG2803K0630143
K= ? ... 09 ?, from previous posts I read ..
thanx for any help ...
I had already posted about this in another section, before I found this ...
do the trials models use the same basic system ?
I have a client's TXT280 Pro that she wants to sell... it was sold to her as a 2009 model
The VIN is : VTRGG2803K0630143
K= ? ... 09 ?, from previous posts I read ..
thanx for any help ...
I had already posted about this in another section, before I found this ...
My VIN doesn't quite follow the rules:
VTRECH2C49G400024
It was sold to me by the original owner as a 2009 and even though its red now he said it was a white Six Days version - which my swing arm stickers and side air box covers seem to agree with.
and can anyone tell me what forks came with the Six Days version? Mine don't match the pics I've seen so far. Forgive me I'm new to GasGas and the forum.
Thanks
VTRECH2C49G400024
It was sold to me by the original owner as a 2009 and even though its red now he said it was a white Six Days version - which my swing arm stickers and side air box covers seem to agree with.
and can anyone tell me what forks came with the Six Days version? Mine don't match the pics I've seen so far. Forgive me I'm new to GasGas and the forum.
Thanks
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Jim Cook
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It's a 2002 FSE 400.
http://www.gasgasmotos.es/image/motos/02ec400.jpg
The FS is for 4-stroke.
400 is for 400cc.
Prior to 2002, the VIN number digit in that position would be part of the year number. In 2002, GasGas decided to conform to the US VIN code regulations and made the tenth digit a letter; instead of having it as the second digit of the year identifier.
"C" stands for the year 2002, as shown in your VIN.
I think the rest of the numbers, at least the ones at the end, have to do with the production number.
You can use this parts book, since they didn't do any real updates till the 2005 miodel, but I don't currently see the download of the engine workshop manual.
http://www.gasgasmotos.es/es/modelos-anteriores/download-2004_ecsmfse_400_450_4t_manual_es.pdf.html
The update for your bike that really counted was to the 2004 Exhaust cam assembly.
There was also an update for the starter gear assembly.
Good Riding to You!
Jim
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Jim Cook
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Some of the early model FSE400 engines had an exhaust cam with a faulty decompression pin, which didn't reduce the compression enough for the starter to rotate fast enough for the bike to start. Mine, as it came from the factory, had to also be kicked over as I pushed the start button.
If it starts easily and well with the electric starter, the exhaust cam should be fine. The first FSE400 I set up for a customer was great. So great, in fact, that I got another for my self.
Mine was a problem. So much so that I finally carried it to the importer 750 miles away and had them supply me with an updated exhaust cam and reset my throttle position sensor. (It took me less than 20 minutes to change the exhaust cam and them only five minutes to reset the TPS.)
The starter gear upgrade consists of replacing the '02 intermediate starter gear with one which had some "give" in it's assembly, in case the engine backfired during the starting process. This protected the starter clutch assembly.
The new gear gave a better ratio to help the electric starter, and was made a little differently.
The easiest way to tell, if possible, would be to ask the previous owner(s). Other than that, a visual inspection would let you know, if you can get a photo of the part.
(I don't know how descriptive the drawing of the part is in the parts book, and I just found out that the GasGas web site doesn't have any parts books available for your engine. The link I gave you turned out to be for an owners' manual.)
I will try to locate an engine shop manual download for you, and also a download of parts book while i am looking. It may be a while, since most of my downloaded manuals were on a now defunct computer. (I saved the hard drives.)
I also have the part numbers for the starter gear upgrade pieces on a scan somewhere that i will try to locate for you.
It if starts and runs well, you are probably good already.
The Magnetti Marelli fuel injection and engine management system can be diagnosed by a Triumph, Moto Guzzi, or Harley dealer. (from what I've been told.) The cpu for the system is a P15 (if my memory serves me correctly.)
The only other issue I had with the bike, long term, was the starter. Being down low and in the front, it was subject to a lot of splash and an occasional submerging. I took mine apart and cleaned and greased the brushes; and replaced the rubber plug with a plug I made of "Quick Steel" (now sold as J&B Weld). Also, it is a Yamaha spec starter that has had the stud for the positive electric wire relocated. (that is the reason for the rubber plug.) This location will let the stud/bolt rotate when disconnecting/reconnecting the hot wire to the starter. Don't let it rotate, as it can break the wire inside the starter. (I restrained the bolt as I backed off the nut when disconnecting or reconnecting the wire.)
This was updated when they moved the starter for 2005.
The starter body uses a square configured o-ring, instead of a normal round bodied o-ring, for sealing the housing connection. I got spares from Stockers Starters in West Virginia.
That's pretty much all I think I know about the bike, right now.
After these upgrades, my '02 FSE400 was a fun and fast bike.
Good Luck, and Good Riding!
Jim
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Jim Cook
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2002 was the first year they gave the 10th digit a letter; a "C".
With your 10th digit being an "H", that would make it a 2007 EC300.
GasGasDreamer
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my buddys bike
VTREC3000E103xxxx
I think the "E" is the year
A='00
B='01
C='02
D='03
E='04
I think its an '04 EC300.
I hope it is, I sold it to him as an '04.
it does have a steering lock on the frame though.
am I correct?
does the steering lock mean anything?
thanks
VTREC3000E103xxxx
I think the "E" is the year
A='00
B='01
C='02
D='03
E='04
I think its an '04 EC300.
I hope it is, I sold it to him as an '04.
it does have a steering lock on the frame though.
am I correct?
does the steering lock mean anything?
thanks
Jim Cook
Platinum Level Site Supporter
my buddys bike
VTREC3000E103xxxx
I think the "E" is the year
A='00
B='01
C='02
D='03
E='04
I think its an '04 EC300.
I hope it is, I sold it to him as an '04.
it does have a steering lock on the frame though.
am I correct?
does the steering lock mean anything?
thanks
I believe you are correct, Sir.
The steering head lock simply means that it is a real honest world model EC frame; as opposed to a MC frame such as the XC and DE models had.
Weskusklong
New member
vin #
Can someone please help me with this vin # VTREC25096059708
IS IT A EC250 2000 MODEL OR A 1999 MODEL or a 1996 model.
Can someone please help me with this vin # VTREC25096059708
IS IT A EC250 2000 MODEL OR A 1999 MODEL or a 1996 model.
