KYB inserts to SACHS forks

[Synergy-Seals]

Has anyone performed this? The kyb inserts thread for the tc to top tube is a perfect match.
I sketched out the adaptor for the fork axle. Pretty simple peice to sandwich in between the lower tube and axle clamp. This adapter will allow the kyb damper rod nut to mount up.

I am pretty excited to do this. I could make up more if others are interested.

Rob

 

[Jakobi]

Very interested to see what you come up with!

 

[Simmo737]

Interested!

 

[Synergy-Seals]

Great. I will have some made very soon.

Rob

 

[Jakobi]

Rob, just found out all the 2013 Australian E start models will be shipping with 45 zokes. The race models with the 48 zokes. So no fresh market to sell your inserts here. Thats not to say people with the older Sachs aren't looking to upgrade. Simmo and I went TTX route, but not everyones got the spare coin for that.

 

[Simmo737]

Gasgas oz are indeed very silly, I just can't believe they are doing that....

 

[n_green]

Interested. Although I'm not exactly sure what I'm interested in?

I gather KYB internals can be purchased which fit inside the Sachs tubes? What is the adaptor? I'm dumb regarding suspension sorry.

 

[Jakobi]

Interested. Although I'm not exactly sure what I'm interested in?

I gather KYB internals can be purchased which fit inside the Sachs tubes? What is the adaptor? I'm dumb regarding suspension sorry.

In the states they have spare KYB SSS fork parts available everywhere and cheap. Twin chamber so all the benefits of closed chamber forks over the stock sachs open cartridge design. You can do a full conversion but then run into issues with axles, triple clamps, etc etc etc. If the internals drop right in it makes it a job easier than changing fork seals, and unlike the Ohlins TTX which will set you back a grand or more, you can probably get the KYBs for less than you could have your Sachs revalved for.

Thus.. Interested

So whats the plan Rob? Are you just going to machine the base plug to accomodate the KYB into the gasser lower fork leg/axle clamps?

 

[n_green]

In the states they have spare KYB SSS fork parts available everywhere and cheap. Twin chamber so all the benefits of closed chamber forks over the stock sachs open cartridge design. You can do a full conversion but then run into issues with axles, triple clamps, etc etc etc. If the internals drop right in it makes it a job easier than changing fork seals, and unlike the Ohlins TTX which will set you back a grand or more, you can probably get the KYBs for less than you could have your Sachs revalved for.

Thus.. Interested

So whats the plan Rob? Are you just going to machine the base plug to accomodate the KYB into the gasser lower fork leg/axle clamps?

Ah I see. Ok then. Definately interested

 

[GMP]

The KYB SSS swap is not that big of a deal. Ed's '11 tured out very nice, and when using the Yamaha clamps the offsets worked out perfect. I'd maybe look into mfg a kit to use the GG wheel and brakes with the Yamaha fork. The GG brake is larger in dia also. Axel, spacers, caliper carrier adapter should do it. I still might do this to my '07.

 

[Synergy-Seals]

Yes. I am making the adaptor at the axle clamp so that the kyb rebound nut can mount where the sachs base valve used to mount.

So what a person needs to do this:
1. Kyb twin chamber inserts 2006-2013
2. Axle clamp adapter for sachs
3. Bottoming cone at bottom of kyb fork tube
4. Spring seat spacer at bottom of fork tube.

The kyb tc inserts fit perfect on the sachs upper tube. 50mm dia x 2mm pitch.

I will fit these and then let everyone know.

Rob

 

[andoman]

I am VERY interested.
My Sachs units (after re-valve) are almost perfect, but I just need a bit more plushness over the rocks.
I was on a Yamaha WR450 a few months ago. It was wallowing pig everywhere, but whenever I got into nasty loose rocks, I could just pin it and I felt like I was floating over the top. I need that feeling on my GG!!

 

[GMP]

I suspect thats a 4stroke weight thing working in your favor. I've ridden two Huskys back to back, a TE450 and WR250 with the same 45 Zoke fork, and you would think they were completely different forks. CC forks by nature are always a little less plush than OCs, there are more things to start moving and sources of stiction. As long as they are not abusive, don't deflect, and inspire confidence. Thats how I would describe the new Zokes with stock or close to stock valving.

 

[Synergy-Seals]

The adaptors are on the way.....thank you brian y.

 

[jeffs2200]

Depending on the new Sachs on the beta you may have more market for these. I now have the ttx in my Sachs tubes but if the price for the adaptors is right I may get a set.

 

[Jakobi]

Likewise. Sounds like good spares to have!

 

[swazi_matt]

When you say kyb inserts is this how they are purchased (like ttx inserts) or is it the internals from eg yz forks?

 

[Vindicator]

When you say kyb inserts is this how they are purchased (like ttx inserts) or is it the internals from eg yz forks?

any idea how much it would cost a brand new complete KYB SSS inserts in US ? Anyone knows how much it would cost in Europe ?

 

[GMP]

I could be wrong, but the cheap source of KYB SSS internals is primarily from complete forks on ebay from parted out blown up 250Fs. That was my point about the axel and caliper adapter. That way your not limited to the Sachs upgrade market. I would think that there are a lot more guys with 45mm Zokes looking to upgrade than Sachs. Simple production numbers. The '07 through '11 platform with a KYB SSS will give up little to nothing to a new bike. Look at Ed Ventura's thread, nice job.

 

[Synergy-Seals]

I have 45 zokes i will try and fit the kyb upper tube with.