VIN Decoder

[PoorArkansas]

What is my bike?! VIN decode needed

All,

I recently purchased a gasgas and i dont think the guy i bought it from has a clue what it actually is (nor do I )

The VIN is VTRECH2C4DG400081 The guy thought it was a 300 2 stroke? im thinking the VIN is saying its a 200? Can anyone help??

 

[CDN Rick]

All,

I recently purchased a gasgas and i dont think the guy i bought it from has a clue what it actually is (nor do I )

The VIN is VTRECH2C4DG400081 The guy thought it was a 300 2 stroke? im thinking the VIN is saying its a 200? Can anyone help??

I ain't much good at decoding these VIN's.
I google searched your VIN and this listing came up.
Bore and pipe certainly looks like a 300.
Is this your bike?

https://www.riggsoutdoor.com/inventory/2013-gas-gas-xc300e-little-rock-ar-72209-2151896i

 

[Sin]

I was told I had a 13 300 ec, my Vin is a little different than some of those on here. VTRECH2C8DG400066 can someone decode please?

 

[john r b]

Just behind the gear shifter there is a polished spot. it will either say ec20= 200cc, ec25= 250cc, or ec30=300cc

 

[slocalspode]

VIN decoder Q:

Hi folks. Got a bit of a dilemma with the DMV in the great state of Komiforna.
Trying to title and register a 2005 Pampera with a VIN of VTRPP2800E0*****
The "E" in the 10th character denotes a 2005 model year per GasGas logic.
According to CA DMV that is either a 1984 or 2014 per their understanding.
They are requiring me to take the bike to the Highway Patrol office for
examination. What is the chance that the CHP officer won't know the GasGas
rules of VIN designation? Pretty good in my opinion. Thus causing more
confusion...
Is there a "GasGas" document that I could copy or get a hold of that I could
take with me to the inspection that would explain in official terms gasgas's
use of VIN codes?
I do have the original New York title stating the bike was sold new in 2005.
CA knows it all and rather stubborn to admit when they are wrong or ignorant.
Thanks for any suggestions or help.
Cheers, Jeff

 

[Jim Cook]

Jeff.
Tell them that they are not "wrong", but that the book has incorrect data.
Then explain that the problem stems from the Spaniards at GasGas who always felt that they knew a better way of doing things; only coming around in 2002, when they used a "C" for the tenth digit to denote that that was a 2002 model, and each subsequent year had a successive letter, making your 2005 have an "E" for a tenth digit.
If that doesn't work, then ...
Maybe print out a post from the forum that says this.
or
Maybe they would accept a statement from a dealer as the proof they need.

I'll write you a letter, if they will accept something from a former dealer.

Good Luck and Good Riding!
Jim

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[slocalspode]

VIN Stickey

Thanks Jim for your thoughts. I really doubt our local DMV would accept
a copy of a forum post as proof of fact. It's possible, but, I also have
doubts that a letter from a former dealer would hold much weight either.
Unless it was on an official "letter Head" type form or an MSO. That might
convince them.

A couple months ago when I trailer'd the bike to DMV. I did not have the
original NY title with me. Old GF Betsy still had it.
I may go back and see if the guy remembers me and would change the
form or do a re-VIN inspection with the correct manufacture date. Worth a try.

Otherwise it is 3-4 months wait to get an appointment with the CA. Highway
Patrol. They are "official" inspector in CA whenever there is confusion at
the DMV.

The last, and possibly best option, would be to have Betsy sign a DMV
bill of sale transferring the existing NY title, (with her Signature on the back)
over to me. Then proceed with the title and bike in hand back to DMV.

Cheers and it's good to see that you are still around. Too bad the era of ID.
SpodeFests have come to an end.
Jeff

 

[Jim Cook]

Thanks Jim for your thoughts. I really doubt our local DMV would accept
a copy of a forum post as proof of fact. It's possible, but, I also have
doubts that a letter from a former dealer would hold much weight either.
Unless it was on an official "letter Head" type form or an MSO. That might
convince them.

A couple months ago when I trailer'd the bike to DMV. I did not have the
original NY title with me. Old GF Betsy still had it.
I may go back and see if the guy remembers me and would change the
form or do a re-VIN inspection with the correct manufacture date. Worth a try.

Otherwise it is 3-4 months wait to get an appointment with the CA. Highway
Patrol. They are "official" inspector in CA whenever there is confusion at
the DMV.

The last, and possibly best option, would be to have Betsy sign a DMV
bill of sale transferring the existing NY title, (with her Signature on the back)
over to me. Then proceed with the title and bike in hand back to DMV.

Cheers and it's good to see that you are still around. Too bad the era of ID.
SpodeFests have come to an end.
Jeff

It sounds like you have a good plan.
I'm glad to see that you are still around, also.

Good Riding Jeff!

 

[Gasgasecguy]

Bought new bike

Hi guys I've recently bought myself a gas gas 300 ec 2010 but when I've got it home and done a full inspection I'm lead to believe it's a gas gas 250 ec, I'm also trying to find out the year to see if it is actually 2010
The VIN is VTREC2530M0706 (I Havent posted last 3 numbers of vin) Any help would be appreciated

 

[BrolleGG]

I just bought a Gasgas 280 txt pro and is uncertain if the person selling it knew the right age on it. According to what I managed to search up my bike is a 2001 and not a 2006 as he claimed.

Vin is

VTR GG 280 211010166

Letters indicate a gasgas that much I understand and then 280 for the cc. But rest I?m not so sure about.

 

[Jim Cook]

Hi guys I've recently bought myself a gas gas 300 ec 2010 but when I've got it home and done a full inspection I'm lead to believe it's a gas gas 250 ec, I'm also trying to find out the year to see if it is actually 2010
The VIN is VTREC2530M0706 (I Havent posted last 3 numbers of vin) Any help would be appreciated

Going by the "M" in the tenth place in the vin number, I believe it is a 2010.

 

[PJLiberty]

Hey guys, I just bought my first Gas Gas and im not sure what model it is (EC or XC). Its strange, it says xc on the graphics, but then it says EC30 on the engine by the shifter. The vin is Vtrech2c700400057. All i know is that it is a 2013 and a 300cc

 

[TGM_OFFROAD]

Hey guys, I just bought my first Gas Gas and im not sure what model it is (EC or XC). Its strange, it says xc on the graphics, but then it says EC30 on the engine by the shifter. The vin is Vtrech2c700400057. All i know is that it is a 2013 and a 300cc

All the 300s say ec30. Its the same motor across models.

 

[PJLiberty]

All the 300s say ec30. Its the same motor across models.

Oh ok. Well how could i tell which model it is? I heard that the xc has an fmf pipe and the EC does not and mine isn't fmf. Also it has a headlight/taillight. I thought that was a ec only thing? Sorry im really new to this brand

 

[Jim Cook]

Oh ok. Well how could i tell which model it is? I heard that the xc has an fmf pipe and the EC does not and mine isn't fmf. Also it has a headlight/taillight. I thought that was a ec only thing? Sorry im really new to this brand

The only real difference between EC and XC models is the size of the ignition and the "street legal enabling" parts. Both came with the same headlight and had different tail light setups.

Parts will interchange across the whole bike.
To tell if you have an EC ignition or an XC ignition without removing the ignition cover, look at the wires coming from the ignition area of the cases. If the wires come up at the front, then it has the smaller XC (MC)ignition. If the wires come up in the rear of the ignition area, then it has the larger EC ignition.

The XC models, at first, were a "US only" model that was requested by my first importer, Don Knight of Southeastern GasGas , who wanted a race model as it was shipped from Spain. Don Knight fielded a team for the National Enduro Series and the National Hare Scrambles Series; as well as regional races. (This team included Terry Cunningham, Matt Stavish, and Richard Lafferty, some top regional racers, and had Drew Smith of WERproducts.net fpr a suspension on board as the team suspension guru. They did very well, too, finishing in the top ten in both series, and racing the ISDE.)
The SE models were a specially set up XC model that had Ohlins forks, special motor pieces, and personalized for the prospective owner.

The main reasons for the XC being produced and imported to the US were:
1. Get away from DOT red tape and tariffs that were applicable because of the EC having most all of the street legal gear when they arrived.
2. Having a true race model to sell to competition riders around the US.
3. Lower the costs of the bike due to the absence of the parts which made them street legal in 52 countries.
4. My importer and Don Emler (FMF) were friends, and FMF would lower the costs compared to the original Messico racing exhausts; and the need for a USFS approved spark arrestor on the bikes when not used on closed course competition.

PM me if you have any specific questions.

Good Riding,
Jim

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[PJLiberty]

The only real difference between EC and XC models is the size of the ignition and the "street legal enabling" parts. Both came with the same headlight and had different tail light setups.

Parts will interchange across the whole bike.
To tell if you have an EC ignition or an XC ignition without removing the ignition cover, look at the wires coming from the ignition area of the cases. If the wires come up at the front, then it has the smaller XC (MC)ignition. If the wires come up in the rear of the ignition area, then it has the larger EC ignition.

The XC models, at first, were a "US only" model that was requested by my first importer, Don Knight of Southeastern GasGas , who wanted a race model as it was shipped from Spain. Don Knight fielded a team for the National Enduro Series and the National Hare Scrambles Series; as well as regional races. (This team included Terry Cunningham, Matt Stavish, and Richard Lafferty, some top regional racers, and had Drew Smith of WERproducts.net fpr a suspension on board as the team suspension guru. They did very well, too, finishing in the top ten in both series, and racing the ISDE.)
The SE models were a specially set up XC model that had Ohlins forks, special motor pieces, and personalized for the prospective owner.

The main reasons for the XC being produced and imported to the US were:
1. Get away from DOT red tape and tariffs that were applicable because of the EC having most all of the street legal gear when they arrived.
2. Having a true race model to sell to competition riders around the US.
3. Lower the costs of the bike due to the absence of the parts which made them street legal in 52 countries.
4. My importer and Don Emler (FMF) were friends, and FMF would lower the costs compared to the original Messico racing exhausts; and the need for a USFS approved spark arrestor on the bikes when not used on closed course competition.

PM me if you have any specific questions.

Good Riding,
Jim

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Ok I think i see what you mean. I attached an image of the ignition cover. The wires are coming out towards the back of the bike, so this would make it an EC then?

 

[Jim Cook]

Ok I think i see what you mean. I attached an image of the ignition cover. The wires are coming out towards the back of the bike, so this would make it an EC then?

Yes. It has the larger EC ignition. The flywheel is large and takes up the room available in the front (round) part of the area, so your pickup is in the flat area where the wires emerge from the case.
If it had the smaller XC (really the MC, or motocrosser) ignition, the pickup coil would be at the 8:00 position on the ignition, and the wires would come out at the front of the cases above the ignition cover (you'll see the rubber plug there on your bike), and that plug would be where the wires would come out.

Gas Gas started selling an XC model again in the last few years, but I don't think they produced the XC model in the years between 2002 and then.
In 2006, in response to the US dealers' requests, the GG Factory produced the DE (Dealer Edition) models to fill the niche that the absence of the XC & SE models.
My 2006 DE300 had the EC engine mated to the MC250 frame, and the MC250 shock and the 45mm Marzocchi Shiver forks. I love that bike.

Where are you located? Maybe we will get to ride together some day, Or I can connect you with riders in your area who are familiar with Gassers.

Good Riding to you!
Jim

 

[Jomagosi]

gasgas 125 4stroke model and year?

Hey guys. I need help decoding mine.

I just picked a gasgas 125 4 stroke whith 2013 portuguese plates.
i want to know the model of this bike in the registration the model is PA120
( pampera, halley???) production year?

the vin is: VTRPA1200K1080086

Thank you!

 

[Jim Cook]

Hey guys. I need help decoding mine.

I just picked a gasgas 125 4 stroke whith 2013 portuguese plates.
i want to know the model of this bike in the registration the model is PA120
( pampera, halley???) production year?

the vin is: VTRPA1200K1080086

Thank you!

I'm sorry, but your vin # confuses me.
Using deductive logic. . . since the tenth digit is a K, and in 2002 the tenth digit was a C, that would seem to denote your bike is a 2010 model. The tenth digit denoting the year model started with the 2002 year model. (However, I'm not an expert concerning the models later than 2006; and I am not knowledgeable on the models that didn't get imported to the US. I could be completely wrong in my logic. )

Normally, I would read your VIN # as a 2010 125cc Pampera. I read it like this :
"VT" is how all the GasGas VIN numbers that I'm familiar with start.

"PA" (It could stand for Pampera. Sounds good to me. I'll check out 2002 Pampera 280 and see what it's vin is. My EC (Enduro Cross) bikes had vin numbers that started with VTREC. Some of the other early 2000s years models imported to the US had similar but different 4th and 5th letter designations, such as VTRXC or VTRUS. I figured that the "R" used in the third place on these VINs represented "Racing".)

"12" would be interpreted as the bike being a 125cc (the 125cc specific engine parts have numbers that start with "ME120".)

"00" would normally be saying that it was produced in a year ending in 0, such as 2010.

I'll report back after checking my Pampera's VIN.

 

[slocalspode]

Pampera VIN

The VIN on my 2005 280 Pampera is VTRPP2800E064****

US Import so VIM might be different than a Euro model.
Cheers Jim, Good to see you are still here lurking.
Jeff