Dirt Bike Gas Gas article

GasGAS bikes have never been the lightest nor the heaviest bikes in their class - but they are fast, ultra reliable, beautiful, and probably the best handling bikes out there. The most worrisome weight figure on my 2011ec250 is my own 235 pounds.
 
My 300/rider combo lost 35 lbs this offseason but it doesn't seem any easier to put the bike on the stand...still figuring that one out.
 
GasGAS bikes have never been the lightest nor the heaviest bikes in their class - but they are fast, ultra reliable, beautiful, and probably the best handling bikes out there. The most worrisome weight figure on my 2011ec250 is my own 235 pounds.

That reminded me of a funny story.....I was riding mountain bikes back in the mid 90s a lot and full suspension bikes were just starting to come on the market. I was looking at a bike at a local dealership and was talking to the owner. He was trying to sell me on the full suspension bike and that I needed to get one to replace my rigid bike. I mentioned that the suspension bike weighed 4 pounds more than my rigid bike. I noticed he glanced at my waist line and I started laughing. His face turnd red and he wouldn't admit that he was thinking that I shouldn't be worrying about the 4 pounds on the bike but he 20 pounds on my belly. LOL!
 
Heres some discussion regarding bike weights, although pre 2012 models feel free to continue adding to it. http://www.gasgasrider.org/forum/showthread.php?t=12027

I can see how exta weight can be an issue when you are forced to fight it, as is extra power, but you don't see anyone complaining about a bike having a few more ponies under its belt.. IMO the best thing is that the gasser likes to stay on 2 wheels and go where you point it which is why you spend less time fighting both and the bike feels so light and easy to ride. Not to mention its all carried quite low. Tipping feels easy. Lifting is another story. They weren't intended to be carried!
 
Fact is I know my '07 is 253 half fueled and the '12 is lighter. That number is not correct. The '12 chassis is the most stable 2stroke I've been on, no matter what the weight. I'm going to try and weigh my bike on a freight scale at work if it will fit as the scale is in a corner.
 
Do the bikes still come with isde legal tires? - for example, the michelin enduro comp 3s are very heavy tires.

jeff
 
'03 EC 200 - full armor (aluminum skid, barkbusters, cf pipe guard) full tank, 900cc case oil, and a harness-load of useless EC wiring = 251lbs.

Good to see the bikes getting press. I had my EC at a bike night a few weeks back and people were saying they'd read about Gas Gas. Usually they ask what kind of Honda it is.
 
Fact is I know my '07 is 253 half fueled and the '12 is lighter. That number is not correct. The '12 chassis is the most stable 2stroke I've been on, no matter what the weight. I'm going to try and weigh my bike on a freight scale at work if it will fit as the scale is in a corner.

When you get around weighing your 12 please do it with all fluids and the tank either empty or full. When people give weight numbers with " about a half tank" it leaves way to much room for bs. And believe me I will be the first one to testify that my gasser weighs a lot more than a ktm but it feels so much lighter than the ktm's I've ridden.
 
The Metzler 6 days tires are pretty light compared to any tire in my opinion. That is what came on my 2011. My 2011 250 is 250lbs with pipe guard, skid plate, rad guards and hand guards with my older set of wheels with the U rims. I think those wheels are a bit heavier and the bike was weighted with out fuel.
 
Real world gassed up, trail ready, riding weights for modern offroad bikes are usually as follows:

250-300 2t - 245-265lbs
125-200 2t - 240-260lbs

250-300 4t - 270-280lbs (subtract 10-15lbs for Husky X-light)
400-550 4t - 280-300+lbs

I've always marveled at how wound up some mags get at bike weights. The stock published dry weights don't mean all that much IMO. Pretty much everyone adds at least 10-15 pounds of armour and other stuff to them, negating any potential published weight savings on the base bike. Also most published weights don't include much of the fuel, grease, oil or coolant, which is unrealistic. I'd prefer all published weights included a full tank, oil, coolant etc.
Yes, lighter is better & it's even better if the bike 'rides light' like the GG's, which is really what's important anyways .
 
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I decided to weigh my bikes - both without fuel. I used a basic 300 lb. bathroom scale that I tared at 230 pounds with weights from my son's set. The bikes were lifted on an ATV/MC hydraulic jack. Based upon published ready-to-ride weight of the CRF and what I've added to the bike I'd say the following weights are pretty close.

2003 EC300 with: Bark busters, radiator guards, shark fin, gnarly pipe, pipe guard, skid plate, number plate, fastway footpegs, simple wiring harness.
254 pounds. (~269 with full 2.5 gal tank)

2012 CRF250R with: Bark busters, radiator guards, skid plate, hour meter, o-ring chain, oversized tank, spark arrestor, pro taper bars, bar pad.
227 pounds. (~241 with full 2.3 gal tank)
 
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My 2011 250 comes with 6 gears. I don't know why, I only use 3 of them!!:)

I came off a KTM 400 and the Gasser is extreamly light compared to that. I bought the Gasser over a KTM because of the seat height so I could touch the ground.

Cannot wait to read the article.
 
Is there a link anywhere to the Dirt Bike Gas Gas test?
I was much more interested in the motor, handling and reliability of my 05
300 when I purchased it than weight. I agree with clay that weight can be a good thing in regards to a "stable and planted" as opposed to a "skittish and wandering" feel.
But in the sand whoops or when my bike is covered in mud upside down on a slimy rocky uphill-lighter would be much appreiciated.
Oh well it is what it is... Love that motor! Crave the way it carves the twisties! And has been very reliable since I've been flogging it from Feb. 06.
 
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