Don't think we expected it (at least not myself) more like really,really, really hoping.
Makes the decision all that much easier!
18's sure look to have the right parts.
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Don't think we expected it (at least not myself) more like really,really, really hoping.
Makes the decision all that much easier!arminhammer
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For starters I would say maybe to buy back some faith. I would say that a bike that will most likely have a crappy resale, at least until people grow to trust again would want to come to market at a price point that would draw people in to come see them. Not just gamble on the few that still believe.
I'd say for starters don't have flaky dealers, Just found out why the dealer that I contacted 6months ago (that didn't know anything about the bike and it was I that was keeping them in the loop) has the bikes sold to friends when they come in... Good and I'm back to buying a new KTM
CDN Rick
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So in order to buy back faith they should sell bikes with less profit margin so that they can financially rebuild a company so that you have faith?
Doesn't sound like much of a win to me for anyone. That would more likely just sink them. Remember those prices have not been confirmed by GGNA yet. I'll wait to see what they say before I believe anything
I'll buy another GasGas because of Torrot. Those people have passion and vision. I've looked into what they have done with other companies they own and have bought. Very smart business sense.
GasGas has a great future with Torrot. I don't need to see 10 years of future sales to trust that. I'll just look at what Torrot has done in the last decade.
I understand the general public may not be smart enough to see that. But maybe the general public should do some thinking and research.
Besides. I don't buy bikes for their resale value. I buy them because they make me smile. And GG makes me smile.
CDN Rick
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Is there only one dealer in your country?
Stoby
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Price point
The price thing as I see it, is important to the brand, because if a loyalist like me (albeit I'm a frugal Sob) questions the price ,then what about the general public? If they don't get ordinary Joe interested then I see a long road ahead. I'm probably gonna buy one no matter what cause i've been a long time GG rider and I'm treating myself buying a new bike this year (first new one ever) and think the engine and handling were better than what I'd seen from the pumpkins. But I've been tempted by Beta and Sherco with their newer engine designs and they could be had for less $$$ than a ktm. As for magazine
reviews well I take em all with a grain of salt as we've seen the gassers bashed and the 300 pumpkin get rave reviews for years .Don't know how good the newer ones are but I rode the pds ones and thought they sucked compared to the gassers , but magazines loved em. So skeptical to say the least .I hope the new Gasser is great esp. since I'll probably own one. But its the old engine (which I love!) with an add on starter and not the latest technology bolted in a new chassis .I don't see how a non brand loyalist is going to jump ship to GG without incentive. I know it says 2018 but its a late model 17 to most people and you can buy everyone elses 17 model for generally less than $8500 bucks. Don't get me wrong I want one, but am not thrilled that I'd be paying more (I am a frugal sob) for an unknown entity out of brand loyalty ,than what I can buy a comparable bike for. And they are all comparably close to each other in my opinion . Apples to apples.
I want the brand to succeed and I don't see how being more expensive than the competition will help that. Anyway my 2 cents.
Stoby
The price thing as I see it, is important to the brand, because if a loyalist like me (albeit I'm a frugal Sob) questions the price ,then what about the general public? If they don't get ordinary Joe interested then I see a long road ahead. I'm probably gonna buy one no matter what cause i've been a long time GG rider and I'm treating myself buying a new bike this year (first new one ever) and think the engine and handling were better than what I'd seen from the pumpkins. But I've been tempted by Beta and Sherco with their newer engine designs and they could be had for less $$$ than a ktm. As for magazine
reviews well I take em all with a grain of salt as we've seen the gassers bashed and the 300 pumpkin get rave reviews for years .Don't know how good the newer ones are but I rode the pds ones and thought they sucked compared to the gassers , but magazines loved em. So skeptical to say the least .I hope the new Gasser is great esp. since I'll probably own one. But its the old engine (which I love!) with an add on starter and not the latest technology bolted in a new chassis .I don't see how a non brand loyalist is going to jump ship to GG without incentive. I know it says 2018 but its a late model 17 to most people and you can buy everyone elses 17 model for generally less than $8500 bucks. Don't get me wrong I want one, but am not thrilled that I'd be paying more (I am a frugal sob) for an unknown entity out of brand loyalty ,than what I can buy a comparable bike for. And they are all comparably close to each other in my opinion . Apples to apples.
I want the brand to succeed and I don't see how being more expensive than the competition will help that. Anyway my 2 cents.
Stoby
CDN Rick
Silver Level Site Supporter
I actually kinda need a new hat! Does GG do Paypal over the internet for merch? Lol!
Brett (Bonjoes) is supposed to get me one but apparently he's too busy selling bikes to get a hat for a guy who rides like he belongs in a Women's C Class...
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Flashlight
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This is not so much a review; more like an onboard quick-take of the 2018. The riding starts at 1:25.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekg3vHzAgvM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekg3vHzAgvM
mtnmanseth
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2017 models came with very weak kick starter pedal and electric starter gears that broke.
^^^ Thanks for bringing that up Leo, the bolt on starter motor is my biggest hesitation in buying a 2018 actually. It looks identical to the 2017 setup, so I'm sure all of us are curious if anything internal has been changed to address the starter issues that have plagued the earlier bikes. I hope so, because relying on warranty repairs/starter parts replacement isn't a real solution. Any technical insight Mark/Rod?
Jacob 'Berg
Member
I am also curious if any models will be offered without the e-start, as previous my have? At the very least it should be possible to remove the e-start, as I have seen the enduro gp bike Barragan rides minus the starter. I never felt the need for the button on the gasser..
Leo
New member
Not mine but friend's '17 bike
The aluminium on kick starter pedal smash at the open position stopper. (had gone 3 pedals yet
)The gear bolted to flywheel lost few teeths and damage bendix gear.
But, have another friend with another '17 bike (pedal starter only) with kick starter pedal perfect so far.
So, seems like it vary from part to part or start technique to technique.
CDN Rick
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Not mine but friend's '17 bike
The aluminium on kick starter pedal smash at the open position stopper. (had gone 3 pedals yet
The gear bolted to flywheel lost few teeths and damage bendix gear.
But, have another friend with another '17 bike (pedal starter only) with kick starter pedal perfect so far.
I'd guess technique to technique. I could be wrong but going through 3 kickstarters a year is far beyond just the part. You don't have to actually smash it off the footpeg. All it should need is a half a kick from near TDC to get er running.
swazi_matt
Active member
Not mine but friend's '17 bike
The aluminium on kick starter pedal smash at the open position stopper. (had gone 3 pedals yet
The gear bolted to flywheel lost few teeths and damage bendix gear.
But, have another friend with another '17 bike (pedal starter only) with kick starter pedal perfect so far.
I am hoping this has changed with the new crowd. GG has been notorious for differences from one bike to the other ... this bike with a 36 carb, that with a 38 carb, etc etc
