Welcome to the GasGas Rider's Club!

[Jakobi]

Thanks Jakobi, I got the User Manual but I was hoping to find a Service Manual with detail on valve clearance procedures etc. The 2003 FSE 400 manual is titled Service Manual but is only a User Manual.

IMO this is the biggest downfall with Gas Gas. Coming from a Yamaha where the Service Manual is a full workshop manual, exploded views, directions, torque values, all neatly located together, to this where I can't find anything without searching deep. When you find important info I suggest saving it on your pc where you can find it again later. Good luck with the search

 

[Jim Cook]

IMO this is the biggest downfall with Gas Gas. Coming from a Yamaha where the Service Manual is a full workshop manual, exploded views, directions, torque values, all neatly located together, to this where I can't find anything without searching deep. When you find important info I suggest saving it on your pc where you can find it again later. Good luck with the search

When I was a dealer, I was using this desktop computer as my personal business computer. I downloaded everything that I could get from GasGas, and still have most of it available to me.

Is there a place on this site, or any other, to which I can upload the manuals?
(I have the original 2002-2003 FSE400 workshop manual, as well as the larger file of the 2004-2005 FSE450 manual, and also the 2-stroke workshop manual.)

Tip: Any time the file is a true shop manual, it will originally have the word "teller" or "taller" in the name. If mine don't, it just means that I changed the name.

Other than that, if anyone wants a copy of one of the files, pm me with your email address, and I'll pass the file along.

If I email anyone a file, please, before it is shared with others, remove my information from any emails before forwarding them. Please help me fight "spammers" and "phishers", and protect my privacy.

The files are pdf files (I read them using adobe acrobat reader.) and are respectively, (2002-2003 4-t) 2,274KB, (2004-2005 4-t) 5,103KB, and (2006 2-t) 2,479KB; so make sure that your email will accept them. I will only send one manual per email, to keep the email size as small as possible.
The original 4-t and the 2-t manuals are for the engine only.
The 2004-2005 4-t manual was needed due to design updates in the engine. It also has a lot more information and photos of/about the bike. If I had the older GasGas engined 4-stroke, I would get both manuals.

Good Riding!
Jim

 

[Telman]

Thanks Jim

PM sent, and a great idea to upload to this site if that is possible.

 

[Jim Cook]

Telman,
An email with the two 4-stroke manuals attached has been sent.

One thing I found as a FSE400 owner, was that the starter was the same as a Yamaha starter... with modifications.
The modification was needed because of the difference in what area of the starter was exposed, to be able to connect the starter power cable.
To explain further: the bolt where the cable attaches comes out of the starter in a different location than was originally designed for Yamaha application.

This caused two problems:
1. On the early FSE, where the starter is down low in the front of the cylinder, there is a rubber plug in the side of the GG starter. This plug is located where the originally engineered "starter cable bolt" was supposed to be located. In certain conditions, this plug can allow water and mud to pass, which will eventually cause the starter to fail.
My fix for this was to completely cover and seal over the rubber plug with "QuickSteel" metal epoxy. (Quicksteel is now owned and sold as a "J&B Weld" product. It looks like a large Tootsie Roll, with two different color materials in the stick; darker in the middle.) This stopped the moisture problem caused by deep creek crossings.
Ricky Stator was an excellent resource for replacement parts to the starter, including the square formed o-ring which seals where the segments of the starter are put together. If anyone disassembles their starter for any reason, I highly recommend replacing the o-ring.

2: Second problem: Since the bolt to attach the starter cable emerges from a different location than what was designed, there is no internal tabs, or bracing, to hold the bolt stationary when loosening or tightening the nut on the bolt.
When removing or tightening the nut, one must make sure that the bolt doesn't turn, or it will damage the connection with the starter's brushes. I got in the habit of securing the bolt with needle nose vice grips as I tightened or loosened the bolt connecting the cable.

Any way that I can help, just let me know.

If this post now qualifies for a different part of the forum, I apologize.
If need be, someone please move it to the proper "on topic" forum area.

Good Riding!
Jim

 

[Dyrtmon]

A long time KTM owner here, just picked up my first GG - got what I considered a great deal, so I pulled the trigger. Have always been intrigued with theses bikes, and looking forward to comparing the ride and learning about my new toy.

 

[mp5]

Just purchased and am waiting for my first gasgas. It's a 2012 EC300. Been ridng 4 strokes for yrs, so im looking forward to learning the 2t way.

 

[Jim Cook]

Welcome and Good Riding!

 

[jaysktms]

Been a KTM rider from 98 until 2012. New GasGas XC 2013. Started looking
when KTM started the rear linkage thing. Work on a few friends Gasser and
like the motor, but the bike was a bit tight for me. Even so those bike
turned which I was never able to get the KTM to do. Well when the new Gasser
came out it got me thinking and a friend offering me good $ for my 11 KTM. I
made the move, the bike is eye candy for sure. It is more roomier than the
older Gasser for sure. Been working the bugs out of it, you know getting it
to fit me and work the way I want it to. Had LTR do the suspension for me,
which I have to do to all my bike, being 6'5" and 265lbs. Some little
adjustments and WOW does this thing track and turn, which is the weirdest
thing when you try to move it around in the garage it take a couple of
movements to turn around compare to the KTM. Overall very happy with this
change.

 

[Jim Cook]

Welcome to the GasGas riders community.

Good Riding to You!
Jim Cook



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[HRRacing]

Just thought I would share my recent OEM parts purchase experience. I live in Oregon and have always purchased parts from Gofaster in the past. I'm in the process of servicing the top end of my EC250. I ordered all the necessary gaskets from Bill's in Salem, Oregon. I received all my parts in about a week. The parts seemed cheaper than in the past, but I can't confirm that. I'm glad I can go to my local dealer now. Hope everyone else has good experiences also.

 

[Jim Cook]

Some little adjustments and WOW does this thing track and turn, which is the weirdest thing. When you try to move it around in the garage it take a couple of movements to turn around compare to the KTM. Overall very happy with this
change.

It's funny that you mention that. This last summer, when working on my new 4 mile personal super tight woods trail, I noticed that when I was pushing the bike (manually), it doesn't turn worth a damn. (Just as you reported)
Under it's own power, this bike will cut the tight trees better than my wife's little TTR125LE. (I rode them both, back to back, on consecutive laps of the trail.) It rocks in the tight woods.

I then got to looking at it, compared to my '99 200, my 2004 300, and my son Gabe's '00 250. The forks on the 2011 seem to be at a lot different angle than the older Gassers; the rake is less steep, giving it the longer foot powered turning radius.

Under power, though... well watch this video of my son Joshua riding it through some very tight parts of my new trail (Mom's Trail).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IunHkFr-kLU&list=UU-aYJIY7ZMLbR38ViyGur4w
note: It was only his second time through the trail and didn't always follow the exact line

I hope that you are still enjoying your GasGas.

Good Riding,
Jim

 

[tzsuzuki]

Hello

I have been lurking around on your forum.... finally signed up. I am seriously considering selling my KTM and buying a new GasGas. Except for the relative obscurity of these bikes and perhaps less than optimal resale, I am otherwise very impressed.
My local dealer sells these as well as KTM. Although my 350 is a great bike, and there is nothing wrong with it, I am fearing the added maintenance costs. I am racking up the hours and now longing for the simplicity of a two stroke.
I notice the forum members have a broad range age wise of bikes. I take that as a good sign, durability?
The model I am considering seems to be well sorted compared to prior years. I see the kickstand is problematic, and I read somewhere the turning radius is not so great?
I currently run a series that includes a few enduro's and hare scrambles, some of which include parts of mx tracks.
I am more interested in challenging terrain than clipping along at 60+
I am 50 and hope to keep at this for as long as possible. Any advice feedback is welcomed

 

[bkwdc]

Welcome. I own two. Great bikes. Very dependable. Everytime I analyze purchasing another brand, I make the same conclusion ... why.
They out turn, out climb, loaded with top shelf components and rock solid dependable. They are a great value and you can rest assured, very competitive.

 

[gasgasman]

Greetings.

I just flipped over to 50.

The turning radius on the '15 is not a problem.
No issues with my kick stand. The auto retract can be disabled by bending the return spring tab.

 

[tzsuzuki]

thanks for the feedback

Thanks for info.

 

[Rod Overstreet]

I have been lurking around on your forum.... finally signed up. I am seriously considering selling my KTM and buying a new GasGas. Except for the relative obscurity of these bikes and perhaps less than optimal resale, I am otherwise very impressed.
My local dealer sells these as well as KTM. Although my 350 is a great bike, and there is nothing wrong with it, I am fearing the added maintenance costs. I am racking up the hours and now longing for the simplicity of a two stroke.
I notice the forum members have a broad range age wise of bikes. I take that as a good sign, durability?
The model I am considering seems to be well sorted compared to prior years. I see the kickstand is problematic, and I read somewhere the turning radius is not so great?
I currently run a series that includes a few enduro's and hare scrambles, some of which include parts of mx tracks.
I am more interested in challenging terrain than clipping along at 60+
I am 50 and hope to keep at this for as long as possible. Any advice feedback is welcomed

Hello John and welcome aboard (we hope ) Here you will find a pretty hard core group of guys who love the brand and can offer you allot good information, right from the trail so to speak. Additionally, your local dealer is a pretty savvy off road guy himself, so you should be covered when asking for Gas Gas advise! Other than that, I'm totally confident that once you ride the Gas Gas, you will know you made the right decision. If you have any questions, don't be afraid to ask. Hope to hear from you soon.

 

[desertgasser300]

I currently run a series that includes a few enduro's and hare scrambles, some of which include parts of mx tracks.
I am more interested in challenging terrain than clipping along at 60+
I am 50 and hope to keep at this for as long as possible. Any advice feedback is welcomed

The crappier the terrain the better these bikes work. I just took a 1st at Campwood on-board mine. I spoke to Geoff yesterday and he is giving a pretty cool contingency package along with the Gasser's.

 

[tzsuzuki]

The crappier the terrain the better these bikes work. I just took a 1st at Campwood on-board mine. I spoke to Geoff yesterday and he is giving a pretty cool contingency package along with the Gasser's.

Yes I saw that congratulations! I was out to talk to Geoff today and get up close look. I didn't know that contingency would be in play for this coming season, hope it is.

 

[tzsuzuki]

Hello John and welcome aboard (we hope ) Here you will find a pretty hard core group of guys who love the brand and can offer you allot good information, right from the trail so to speak. Additionally, your local dealer is a pretty savvy off road guy himself, so you should be covered when asking for Gas Gas advise! Other than that, I'm totally confident that once you ride the Gas Gas, you will know you made the right decision. If you have any questions, don't be afraid to ask. Hope to hear from you soon.

Thanks for the encouraging words Rod. One thing I am not clear on is the function of the floating piston on the fork?

 

[Jim Cook]

I love everything about my 2011 except for the electric starter design.

The turning radius isn't a problem, unless I am pushing the bike in really tight woods. If the engine is running, it out turns my wife's TTR125 in the tight woods.